cool, I looked yesterday night (about 12 hours ago) and there was nothing new... guess I was a bit too early
"Give me Age of Empires, sir, and you may keep your Warcraft."
Elpea Hal
(id: lp_usa)
posted 06-24-05 03:25 PM
EDT (US)
2 / 22
Gah, hate you, I was just about to post it
*has homepage set on the blog.*
TheGoodEvil Skirmisher
posted 06-24-05 04:33 PM
EDT (US)
3 / 22
That is by far the best entry to date and touches on many features of the game as well as general impressions from the people that played it.
The hardware overheating is not very comforting but of course the game isn't fully optimized yet. I have a 6600gt and it is literally 89 degrees in my house (thanks Mr. Air Conditioner for burning out) and I play very high settings on BF2 with no signs of the extreme overheating that would cause a machine to shut off. Being that those machines were either AlienWare or very very high end machines to force that kind of overheating takes a lot... especially if there is no overclocking.
It worries me a little but then again the settings were probably as high as they could go while still having playable frames. As long as it's optimized more before release I don't expect to see a problem but if you have to burn out your system to see all the effects of the game then i'm worried.
we shall see. TGE
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schildpad Skirmisher
posted 06-24-05 04:36 PM
EDT (US)
4 / 22
high-end doesnt always mean high temperature, the new geforce doesnt produce much heat.
89 degrees, how many degree celcius is that?
Elpea Hal
(id: lp_usa)
posted 06-24-05 04:57 PM
EDT (US)
5 / 22
About 35C.
Spacemonk Skirmisher
posted 06-24-05 06:17 PM
EDT (US)
6 / 22
Well they were at the top of the hall, or at least higher then all the other. Because hot air goes up ES had all the hot air from E3 at their booth. Maybe they put the pc's away in a box/pilar or something similar so they didn't have a good acces to 'cold' air to pull in. They didn't ask for watercooling for nothing I'm not worried cause ES can play it in their testlab just fine I think, otherwise he would have mentioned it. Even if they can't they won't ship it like that, I'm sure they would fix it So no worries
I wonder how they apply all those changes, I mean if you put too much in at once and it doesn't work isn't is a bit hard to tell wich one of the changes didn't work???
"Give me Age of Empires, sir, and you may keep your Warcraft."
TheGoodEvil Skirmisher
posted 06-24-05 06:31 PM
EDT (US)
7 / 22
Quote:
high-end doesnt always mean high temperature, the new geforce doesnt produce much heat.
that's my point to overheat a high end machine it takes a LOT of heat, it couldn't have been much hotter in the E3 center than it is in my house and I'm not overheating with all the resource hungry crap i'm playing
TGE
Spacemonk Skirmisher
posted 06-24-05 06:32 PM
EDT (US)
8 / 22
Yes but I think they might have had bad ventilation. (I just hope it's not the game causing problems *scared*)
"Give me Age of Empires, sir, and you may keep your Warcraft."
gelheadhobo Skirmisher
posted 06-24-05 11:55 PM
EDT (US)
9 / 22
theres really nothing to worry about, because ES would never ship a game that overheated or anything like that. probably the conditions at the booth were extremely hot.
and for the guy who said his house i really hot all the time, if your that worried (Which you shoudln't be), just point a fan at ur comp, and then maybe that'll make you feel better :P
Lord_Cyrus Skirmisher
posted 06-25-05 00:43 AM
EDT (US)
10 / 22
As long as proper cooling is used software cant make computers overheat. Computer parts will only do so much work and once you hit the limit puting more load on it wont make it go faster. As long as your cooling is good enough for max load under your atmospheric conditions it it wont overheat no matter what you are running.
Lord Cyrus
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TheGoodEvil Skirmisher
posted 06-25-05 00:58 AM
EDT (US)
11 / 22
Then why do cards overheat? the more strain on them the hotter they get... then they overheat... Play a game like doom 3 on a ti4200 at ultra settings and see how long it takes before your card says "goodnight". You could water cool the card but if it can't handle something it will overheat and shut off... why else would they add a temp monitor in the drivers...
TGE
RiderOfEternity Skirmisher
posted 06-25-05 05:21 AM
EDT (US)
12 / 22
By the way, what does everyone think of them taking out the autoqueue?
Meh, dont worry tge if aoe3 burned out everyones graphics card that would be the last of es..... so i in no way see that being in the final
as for no more Autoqueue that is God sent. It will at least partly insure that this game will have some competative nature. AQ is just something that makes a game spam and allows you to turn ur brain of
anyhow also the villager changes really make me think...
Quote:
Villager costs drop in half: they are easier to replace but people will probably not build more. This should put less at risk to get out in the wilderness. Villagers are weaker: Unprotected villagers are now more vulnerable. So if you need to expand, you need to support the expansion, not just send some villagers.
My first though as i was reading this was that with villagers being cheaper to replace raiding would now be less effective, but if they are weaker as well that sounds good to me, as long as villagers arnt just spamed
Quote:
Mills and plantations are more expensive: controlling territory for hunting and mining is more valuable, and it is less easy/more expensive to hunker down in an easily defended space.
Hmmmm well there has been a lot of talk about the drop off points being removed but it doesnt sound like it from this quote? Did the drop off points get added again becasue of us? interesting to say the least
thanx, Mokon
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matthewv Skirmisher
posted 06-25-05 02:57 PM
EDT (US)
14 / 22
Quote:
quote: Mills and plantations are more expensive: controlling territory for hunting and mining is more valuable, and it is less easy/more expensive to hunker down in an easily defended space.
Hmmmm well there has been a lot of talk about the drop off points being removed but it doesnt sound like it from this quote? Did the drop off points get added again becasue of us? interesting to say the least
Drop of points likely weren't added again. Rise of Nations did not have drop of points and yet you still needed a mining camp for your miners, etc.
Question: what does it mean by removing Autoqueue? does this mean you will no longer be able to queue up units/villiges any more(as in the AOE I)?
Mokon Skirmisher
posted 06-25-05 07:13 PM
EDT (US)
15 / 22
no aq is when u click one button and units will continue to be produced as long as u have the res to do so
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they probably didn't add drop off points again. I know how much you want them to as I don't see any reason to remove them... but anyway those plantations and mills are like farms from aom. Plantations can be gathered to get coin and mills plop down farms around them wich can be gathered do get food
As the villies were stronger and more expensive at the E3 build, I'm glad they're trying to make them cheaper again, cause then you'll have more to do early in the game. It's not such a big deal but imo it's more fun and even more realistic to have a bigger quantity of lower quality villies
"Give me Age of Empires, sir, and you may keep your Warcraft."
Lord_Cyrus Skirmisher
posted 06-25-05 08:13 PM
EDT (US)
17 / 22
Quote:
Then why do cards overheat? the more strain on them the hotter they get... then they overheat... Play a game like doom 3 on a ti4200 at ultra settings and see how long it takes before your card says "goodnight". You could water cool the card but if it can't handle something it will overheat and shut off... why else would they add a temp monitor in the drivers...
A ti4200 running doom 3 at room temp with proper cooling won't overheat. If, however, its 100 degrees in the room then there is a good chance it will. A 6800 probably would also. The temp monitor is for extreme conditions like this. I am sure any game being showed at E3 would have had the same problems if running on the same comps in the same place as AoE3.
Lord Cyrus
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Dragoon_Force Skirmisher
posted 06-26-05 01:22 PM
EDT (US)
18 / 22
poor ventilation near the aoe3 pcs + pcs being on a v. long time + loads of people in the microsoft games e3 building = overheat
RiderOfEternity Skirmisher
posted 06-26-05 01:47 PM
EDT (US)
19 / 22
Heck, I would overheat and blackout if I was at E3
About the system failure. Imagine putting an Alienware system into a laminated speaker box with one small fan at the bottom to push out air and you will have an acurate idea as to what was at the show.
The first bad idea about this was the material just absorbed heat. The second is the fan at the bottom. It should have been at the top of the box to get out the hot air.
We where not the only ones whos systems blew up while showing off the game. The Half Life 2 demo also failed because the box overheated and a handful of others.
It was just a bad setup to get cables out of view.
Brtnboarder495 Skirmisher
posted 06-27-05 12:34 PM
EDT (US)
22 / 22
Yea, and why black? Black absorbs light = more heat, and that can't help with all the lights. Plus with all the people the room tempature must of been pretty high. Seems like poor planning to me. How many computers were damaged?