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Topic Subject:How to get a PC that will run AOE 3 on Ultra for under $2000.
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Zeusmeister
Skirmisher
posted 06-27-05 05:49 PM EDT (US)         
I actially don't know what to buy. I just wrote this to get suggestions. Should I build my own PC or buy from someone? (alienware maybe) Should I get a 7800 GTX or something cheaper?

Solution:

Buy Dimension 8400 from Dell.
Choose the following options:
3.0 Ghz Pentium 4 Proccesor
1 Gigabyte of DDR 3 533 Mhz Memory
XP professional operating system
SELECT THE CHEAPEST GRAPHICS CARD ON THE LIST AND SELECT INTEGRATED AUDIO

This Dell system should be less than $1000.
(if you select no monitor)

Then, buy a GeForce 7800 GTX graphics card for $600
(This is the fastest graphics card in the world right now, and it's well worth the money)

Then, if you really want an ULTRA POWERFUL machine, buy 2 more 512 Mb sticks of memory for under $175 (only 2 slots come filled from Dell)

You will then have a computer with the following:
3.0 Ghz Pentium 4
2 Gigabytes of 533 Mhz memory
GeForce 7800 GTX graphics card

This system will cost under $1750 and will be more than fast enough to play AOE 3 on ultra.

PLEASE DON'T MOVE THIS TOPIC TO ANOTHER FORUM, BECAUSE NOBODY L00KS THERE

[This message has been edited by Zeusmeister (edited 06-28-2005 @ 01:15 PM).]

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Zeusmeister
Skirmisher
posted 06-27-05 05:55 PM EDT (US)     1 / 130       
This system can definitely be bought for under $1750.

I named the topic before I checked all the prices.

rippy
Skirmisher
posted 06-27-05 06:07 PM EDT (US)     2 / 130       
Sure...

That'll run AoEIII on full settings for sure. AND the generation of games after it. AND the generation after that.

Honestly, you don't need a computer THAT good to run AoEIII on full.


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Elpea
Hal
(id: lp_usa)
posted 06-27-05 06:09 PM EDT (US)     3 / 130       
I have that system, except that at the time I got a x800 thinking it was better.

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lief ericson
Skirmisher
posted 06-27-05 06:11 PM EDT (US)     4 / 130       
Meh. With that same money you can build yourself a much better computer with the parts you want. And a cool, glow in the dark case, if you wish.

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deduijk
Skirmisher
posted 06-27-05 06:13 PM EDT (US)     5 / 130       
OMG! Buying something and discarding it.., that's no good.

You're cheaper buying components and making the computer yourself. That way you can get an AMD (which are better.., esp for games). The right graphics card (any high-end if u please). etc.

That way you're sure you get a quality system.., instead of some of the cheap junk dell put into computers...

CU,
deduijk

fhertlein
Skirmisher
posted 06-27-05 06:13 PM EDT (US)     6 / 130       
Just build your own system using an AMD 64.

AMD 3700+ San Diego $325
Asus A8N-SLi premium(includes onboard sound) $195
Corsair 4400C25 $220
Nvidia 7800 $600
Western Digital Sata II $143
Cases are cheap.

$1500 cost, for a better system that can easily be upgraded in the future.

[This message has been edited by fhertlein (edited 06-27-2005 @ 06:14 PM).]

Lysimachus
Skirmisher
posted 06-27-05 06:25 PM EDT (US)     7 / 130       
Exactly fhertlein. One can simply go to newegg.com and build their own system. I build everyone of my computers--most of the components came from newegg.

Personally, I'd forget about Pentium for 3D RTS games. Stick with AMD Athlon 64s. Much cheaper, plus faster.

Everyone on this board should discipline themselves to learn how to build their own system.


~Lysimachus - Former HG Angel for Rise & Fall Heaven || Was RaFH Game Info Admin || Proud Member of HG since 1998

[This message has been edited by Lysimachus (edited 06-27-2005 @ 06:28 PM).]

fhertlein
Skirmisher
posted 06-27-05 06:58 PM EDT (US)     8 / 130       
Of course I selected good components just to show you can build it cheaper than ordering from Dell.

A person can shop around to find better prices or stay away from the top of the line components.

However, getting a AMD CPU, descent mobo, RAM and GPU is important.

CaptainPoncho
Skirmisher
posted 06-27-05 07:01 PM EDT (US)     9 / 130       
Buying parts and assembling will save you a WHOLE lot of money. Newegg.com is the key.
Spacemonk
Skirmisher
posted 06-27-05 07:31 PM EDT (US)     10 / 130       
maybe we can post some good reviewsites as well, so people can find out themselfs what to buy

And I've to say, dell computers are decent pc's but not for playing games.

You can buy a better gaming pc for less with relative ease just as stated above.

two review sites:

www.anandtech.com
www.techreport.com


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Aphot
Skirmisher
posted 06-27-05 07:31 PM EDT (US)     11 / 130       
fhertlein has it right, or if you wanna overclock, get a 3000+ and a DFI NF4 mobo and pickup a decent cpu heatsink and oc the crap out of it.

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Spacemonk
Skirmisher
posted 06-27-05 07:41 PM EDT (US)     12 / 130       
very true you can come a long way with overclocking for relative little money. But your warranty will get void (???).
I'm gonna do it though

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Brtnboarder495
Skirmisher
posted 06-27-05 09:16 PM EDT (US)     13 / 130       
That's exactly what I was thinking [:P] But I only got a 1200 budget. But can you take out the video card in the dell and exchange it with the 7800gtx with no prob? Plus I think there may be a PSU shortage, although I am not sure.

Gameranger: _NiGhThAwK_
Brtnboarder495
Skirmisher
posted 06-27-05 09:20 PM EDT (US)     14 / 130       
Looking over other's posts building is prob better, and yea AMD's own Intel in the processor area for gaming.

Gameranger: _NiGhThAwK_
RiderOfEternity
Skirmisher
posted 06-28-05 02:38 AM EDT (US)     15 / 130       
or get a Dell Inspiron XPS Gen 2

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schildpad
Skirmisher
posted 06-28-05 02:44 AM EDT (US)     16 / 130       
if you wanna overclock and a very fast proc, take a centrino. Very fast, dont use much electricity and yyou can overclock it. (frokm 2,2 to 2,8 ghz i believe)

(centrino also owns for gaming)

[This message has been edited by schildpad (edited 06-28-2005 @ 02:45 AM).]

madpcsupreme
Skirmisher
posted 06-28-05 04:16 AM EDT (US)     17 / 130       
I just wanna say intel's P4 3.0Ghz sucks! AMD's Athlon 64 is much much faster. And I highly doubt if 2GB memory really improve the performance by much or not...
schildpad
Skirmisher
posted 06-28-05 05:01 AM EDT (US)     18 / 130       
okay amd 64 is better for gaming then p4. but dont compare a p4 3,0 ghz with a amd 64. Which AMD?
Duan Xuan
Skirmisher
posted 06-28-05 07:14 AM EDT (US)     19 / 130       
Problems with building on a Dell system:

1. You have a lousy, tiny case to work with. This causes poor ventilation and makes even putting your hand in difficult.

2. Horrible power supply. To prevent you from upgrading your Dell, the unscrupulous manufacturers have equipped all Dell PCs with a no-name and low-power PSU. Sticking a GeForce 7800GTX in will instantly cause power shortage and ruin the $2000 rig. You then have to buy a new Dell computer for $1000.

3. Poor quality memory. Notice they never EVER publish the manufacturer of their RAM sticks. Must be some lousy one with zero overclockability and short lifespan. That's 2GB of useless RAM.

You haven't even tried out the solution for yourself, Zeusmeister. Don't mislead others.

unjugon
Skirmisher
posted 06-28-05 07:55 AM EDT (US)     20 / 130       
I am interested on this topic since I am working this summer and I am a fan of age of empires games =)

Should I really buy an AMD processor? Does that mean I need other motherboard from the one I have, too?

Finally, an Envidia card or G-Force?

Thx guys for the answers.

Maffia
AoE3H Seraph
(id: fred_ernie)
posted 06-28-05 07:59 AM EDT (US)     21 / 130       
wether you need a new motherboard will depend on our currant one. And wether you need to upgrade the processor again depemds on your currant one. More info is required.

Quote:

Envidia card or G-Force

Gforce is nVidea

Also check Firefox's thread for more info http://aoe3.heavengames.com/cgi-bin/forums/display.cgi?action=ct&f=1,22472,0,10


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Lysimachus
Skirmisher
posted 06-28-05 08:03 AM EDT (US)     22 / 130       
I would recommend Dell any day if one were to purchase a laptop. But never for a desktop PC.

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Spacemonk
Skirmisher
posted 06-28-05 09:08 AM EDT (US)     23 / 130       
Laptops are a whole different story because there isn't much you can change about them anyway. And you're not gonna overclock a laptop

"Give me Age of Empires, sir, and you may keep your Warcraft."
fhertlein
Skirmisher
posted 06-28-05 09:08 AM EDT (US)     24 / 130       
Building your own computer takes about one hour to put the pieces together, since you should take your time with the components.

If you build your own, now is a good time to include a DVD drive.

Just make sure you have an OS CD lying around.

Maffia
AoE3H Seraph
(id: fred_ernie)
posted 06-28-05 09:12 AM EDT (US)     25 / 130       
listen to fhertlein he give good advice, the first time i wiped my computers HD i spent about an hour wondering why it wouldnt work, before realising id forgotten to reinstall the OS

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