Now the fact that I went a stable first = instant loss against those archers which taught me that maybe stable first is not so good after all (see you can improve yourself from a game even if your are rushed and killed instantly!)
Actually its the second time I played him but the first time was as Portugal against a janissary/abus rush which well doesn't count lol! Portugal need an AoM Hera Lighting storm god power to defeat that...
I'm not whining that I can't beat the strategy because ironically spanish with faster shipments and wardogs can effectively do the strategy better than ottoman or any other civ, since wardogs can harras the enemy explorer from building tradeposts, and faster shippment of 300 wood means I can get the trade post up earlier. (in fact in the demo I thought a strategy like this would be overpowered but never tried it in the full version)
My complaint is... is the only way to beat this strategy to do it better yourself? I'm going to start doing this strategy as spanish and see how people counter it because for the life of me I cannot think of a way.
If I play his ottoman as spanish again, I don't want to be forced to just perform his native rush better than him, but its the only way I can see to defeat it.
[This message has been edited by Ceres629 (edited 11-15-2005 @ 06:14 AM).]