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Topic Subject:Globe and Mail "Age of Empires III versus Civilization IV" article
Findannus
Skirmisher
posted 01-13-06 00:05 AM EDT (US)         
http://www.globetechnology.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20051222.gtstrategydec22/BNStory/AtPlay/


Too bad it's a wee light on the detail, but it's nice to see Canada's largest newspaper write an article on the subject.

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Scotty the Fallen
Skirmisher
posted 01-13-06 00:12 AM EDT (US)     1 / 9       
The Ratings should be reversed. I give AOEIII a 4.5/5 and a 3/5 for Civ IV. I couldn't even play the dam game 'Cause it wouldn't even load! (Yeesh!)

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Red Storm
Skirmisher
posted 01-13-06 02:36 AM EDT (US)     2 / 9       
I think it's hard to compare the two because they aren't the same type of game. Both are good in there own ways - CIV for TBS, AoE3 for RTS.
Echoic
Skirmisher
posted 01-13-06 03:26 AM EDT (US)     3 / 9       
Terribly written, even if they think Civ IV is better than AoE III, which is fine, it's extremely stupid to say aoe is 1/2 of a star above the center of the bell curve. In college, we learned things like this first-second year. Wonder where these guys got an education, if they even got one at all.
schildpad
Skirmisher
posted 01-13-06 04:17 AM EDT (US)     4 / 9       
stupid article, you cant compare them

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Diceclock
Skirmisher
posted 01-13-06 09:29 AM EDT (US)     5 / 9       
I like seeing gaming get attention, however that article reads like if one of us wrote an article about basket weaving.

Out of curiosity, to anyone who has Civ IV, is the Multiplayer actually feasable? Or is it one of those Multiplayers that only work if both guys commit to a 4 hour a day, 3 week play schedule for a game.

Stormboy
Skirmisher
posted 01-13-06 10:55 AM EDT (US)     6 / 9       
Here's a Civ4 review from a multiplayer perspective: The World As You Know It Is Changed by Friedrich Psitalon, who was an excellent Civ3 player.

Some excerpts:

  • On connectivity: "Gamespy NAT negotiation allows people behind routers, firewalls, etc, to play with no trouble at all - no opening or closing of ports, zones, etc [...] The days of 'X can't connect with Y ever for some weird reason' are over."
  • On OOS: "How does 'gone' strike you? If someone has a different version than you (meaning modded files of any type) you'll see the OOS return - otherwise, never again."
  • On "imposters" (a.k.a. smurfs): "No longer an issue. Everyone has a specific nick when they log into CIV."
  • On civ balance: "Are they all equal? No. Are they all playable in MP? Yes! Every trait combination has an angle which can work in some way in MP"
  • On game length: "CIV plays faster than C3C, as a rule [...] Typically, a decent-length CIV game is about 2.5 hours, and 150 turns."

    Sounds pretty good to me . (I liked Civ3 a lot and I'm thinking of getting Civ4 sometime soon)

  • Elpea
    Hal
    (id: lp_usa)
    posted 01-13-06 11:07 AM EDT (US)     7 / 9       
    I don't know if you noticed and all, but most of the above are either already on ESO2, or are under works . Except for the Firewall/Router part I'm guessing.

    Stormboy
    Skirmisher
    posted 01-13-06 11:21 AM EDT (US)     8 / 9       

    Quoted from Elpea:

    most of the above are either already on ESO2, or are under works


    I'm well aware of that. I never said they weren't, did I?
    Just pointing out that Civ4 also appears to be a viable multiplayer game, that's all.
    G_Spot_Lover
    Skirmisher
    posted 01-13-06 12:34 PM EDT (US)     9 / 9       

    Quote:

    # On connectivity: "Gamespy NAT negotiation allows people behind routers, firewalls, etc, to play with no trouble at all - no opening or closing of ports, zones, etc The days of 'X can't connect with Y ever for some weird reason' are over."


    Some people reported having problems with ESO because of routers I think.

    Quote:

    # On OOS: "How does 'gone' strike you? If someone has a different version than you (meaning modded files of any type) you'll see the OOS return - otherwise, never again."


    AoE3 = king of out of sync errors.

    Quote:

    # On "imposters" (a.k.a. smurfs): "No longer an issue. Everyone has a specific nick when they log into CIV."


    AoE3 has solved this "issue" (an issue which is non existent anyway because of lack of a real rating system).

    Quote:

    # On civ balance: "Are they all equal? No. Are they all playable in MP? Yes! Every trait combination has an angle which can work in some way in MP"


    AoE3 = Not all civs are truely viable in the good rook/inter level.

    Quote:

    # On game length: "CIV plays faster than C3C, as a rule Typically, a decent-length CIV game is about 2.5 hours, and 150 turns."


    AoE3 plays much faster and is in real time. The games tend to last only a short time and as a result require much less strategy then a CIV game. This however is something purely based on preference as some people neither have the time nor patience for a 2.5 hour game.

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