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Jumbalaya
Skirmisher
posted 06-26-06 07:28 PM EDT (US)         
Looks like sandy slipped up a new map

Quote:

18) What kind of things were planned for the X-pack but won't make it?
A – the Hawaiian minor ally tribe, much to Wally Wachi’s disappointment.


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iLord
Skirmisher
(id: Lord Iarune)
posted 06-26-06 07:35 PM EDT (US)     1 / 31       
Wow! None of us would ever have guessed Hawaii as one of the new minor tribes. That would kick so much ass. Too bad it's gone. But a Hawaii map sounds good.

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Prince of Tennis
posted 06-26-06 09:10 PM EDT (US)     2 / 31       
Hawaii? That wasn't colonized intill really late in the game's timeframe and certainly can't be counted as part of the Americas, being a Pacific Island.

Cosmopolitan? Check.
Cancer of the Head
Skirmisher
(id: say1988)
posted 06-26-06 11:30 PM EDT (US)     3 / 31       
I am iffy on whether that answer supports or opposes a Hawaii map.

First it gives an idea that the natives were considered, which would mean the map was considered.

But there is the possibility they got turned down because the map was shot down....

iLord
Skirmisher
(id: Lord Iarune)
posted 06-26-06 11:46 PM EDT (US)     4 / 31       
I think a Hawaii map will be cool. I also think that since there are going to be two new South American maps if I'm not incorrect, they are going to be Andes and Atacamas.

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Goldfinger
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posted 06-27-06 00:06 AM EDT (US)     5 / 31       
Cook discovered the Sandwich Islands (Hawaii) in 1778, not out of the time frame.

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Dieneces
Skirmisher
posted 06-27-06 01:49 AM EDT (US)     6 / 31       
If it's in, I wonder what makes it different to the Caribbean and Hispaniola maps.

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Yamato Take
Prince of Tennis
posted 06-27-06 11:19 AM EDT (US)     7 / 31       

Quote:

Cook discovered the Sandwich Islands (Hawaii) in 1778, not out of the time frame.

But colonization didn't start until around 1840 and by the U.S. Before that it was just a few missonaries and traders.


Cosmopolitan? Check.
King_Ali_Skahir
Skirmisher
posted 06-27-06 12:18 PM EDT (US)     8 / 31       
Hawaii is most likely an Archipelago map. with a lot of uninhabited islands.

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KaSt0R
Skirmisher
posted 06-27-06 12:34 PM EDT (US)     9 / 31       
I don't think it will be included. If they included it they had also included the natives and they didnt.
Jumbalaya
Skirmisher
posted 06-27-06 12:54 PM EDT (US)     10 / 31       
Maybe it's a map with no natives

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Novoa20
Skirmisher
posted 06-27-06 01:44 PM EDT (US)     11 / 31       
But that wouldn't make any sense since Hawaii did have natives.
Yamato Take
Prince of Tennis
posted 06-27-06 04:47 PM EDT (US)     12 / 31       
And we already have Patagonia.

Cosmopolitan? Check.
Jumbalaya
Skirmisher
posted 06-27-06 04:49 PM EDT (US)     13 / 31       
So? There are two maps without trade routes so why can't there be two maps without natives?

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RF_Gandalf
Skirmisher
posted 06-27-06 09:53 PM EDT (US)     14 / 31       
Sandy == sarcasm.

Man, be realistic. He was not saying anything about there being a Hawaiian map.

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Novoa20
Skirmisher
posted 06-27-06 10:15 PM EDT (US)     15 / 31       
Atacama seems like an even more logical choice for another map with not natives.

But since Sandy has said that won't be it, there really is no actual reason as to why Hawaii shouldn't have natives. Except for that of there no being no map.

Also considering Hawaii wasn't really so much as colonized.

A "Tierra del Fuego" map with no natives would be much more full of sense.

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imkeaton
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posted 06-28-06 11:10 PM EDT (US)     16 / 31       
I think that hawai map don't be allowed in the x-pack.. because hawai is full of indians in that time.. so i think that it won't appear in the x-pack
Smertios
Skirmisher
posted 06-29-06 12:57 PM EDT (US)     17 / 31       
There were natives in Patagonia as well.

Something I can't understand is why they cancelled the minor tribe, if they were already doing it...

N_E_Patriots
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posted 06-29-06 01:55 PM EDT (US)     18 / 31       
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Novoa20
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posted 06-29-06 02:08 PM EDT (US)     19 / 31       

Quote:

There were natives in Patagonia as well.

But they were really of no importance. The Inca were also around the Patagonia, but they didn't quite "settle" there.

Instead in Hawaii the natives were there in abundance, and although they weren't very important either there is no way for there to be a Hawaiian island map and there be no natives.

At least on the Patagonia one can think that the area where one is (on the maps) there are no natives because it's possible. But in Hawaii, it's not possible for one to be there and not find any natives whatsoever.

Cancer of the Head
Skirmisher
(id: say1988)
posted 06-29-06 02:43 PM EDT (US)     20 / 31       

Quote:

Something I can't understand is why they cancelled the minor tribe, if they were already doing it...

Huh? Nothing says they started the Hawaiians, they had just planned to add them but decided not to. For all we know as far as they got was the name on a piece of paper.

Yamato Take
Prince of Tennis
posted 06-29-06 05:06 PM EDT (US)     21 / 31       
Or were joking about it.

Cosmopolitan? Check.
Jumbalaya
Skirmisher
posted 06-29-06 07:47 PM EDT (US)     22 / 31       
I really don't give a shit about 'historical inaccuracies'. If the ****ing ottomans were fighting over canada why the hell can't there be a hawaiian map?

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Novoa20
Skirmisher
posted 06-30-06 08:49 AM EDT (US)     23 / 31       
Are you angry or just excited there, Jumbalaya?

The Ottoman thing has been explained more times than necessary. So I don't want to repeat it again.

And I've already given my reasons as to why a Hawaiian map couldn't be. But island hoping would be sort of fun.

Jumbalaya
Skirmisher
posted 06-30-06 03:04 PM EDT (US)     24 / 31       
Everybody in this forum is dwelling on the thought that if it didn't happen in history, it's not going to be in the game which is WRONG. They aren't writing a ****ing book, they're making a GAME!

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lachlan
Skirmisher
posted 06-30-06 04:40 PM EDT (US)     25 / 31       
As has been stated many times, whipping out the timeline means nothing{Sioux arguments ad nausium}. That has very little bearing on what gets included and since Hawaii is in the latter portion of the time period, its irrelevent anyway.

I suspect the main reason Hawaiians are out is because they'd only be useable on a single map.

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