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L_Clan_Socrates
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posted 02-27-07 04:17 PM EDT (US)         
https://forum.agecommunity.com/ibb/posts.aspx?postID=439375

gl, hf etc. etc.


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James Lock
Skirmisher
posted 03-12-07 01:53 PM EDT (US)     426 / 445       

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2) At 5:30 they can start producing villagers from two TC's, essentially the same as batch training two villagers at a time (50% faster then normal), only more flexible.

Not if he is FFing. Which was the point of my argument. Portugal will outboom Russia in age 2 if the Russian is just sitting around. If the russian FFs, the portugese player most likely will ff, meaning he still only has 1 TC going, which will make 2 or 3 villagers


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3) At 7:30 they can have three TC's spawing villagers in 33% of the time of one TC normal spawn rate.

Russia can age with exiled prince too

You can easily gather the wood for a second TC during age up and either ship 1 or make another shipping 1000 wood.

The Russian will reach 99 vils first if they are both booming with no pressure atall.


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futurehermit
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posted 03-13-07 09:25 PM EDT (US)     427 / 445       

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Ottoman newbies can still jan rush, so thats at least half the civs u play vs owned

sorry, but this was the best comment in the whole thread, rofl!!!

i must say i have ZERO sympathy for the otto crybabies. otto have been dominating (maybe not best civ, but one of) for a very long time. jans are an incredibly op unit vs. civs that must rely on xbows for colonial counter and i am so freakin' sick-and-tired of playing vs. 1-strat ottos (jan-abus rush, jan-abus rush, jan-abus rush) that i just can't find sympathy in my heart that abus are getting nerfed. frankly ES could've nerfed jans slightly as well and i wouldn't cry even a little.

James Lock
Skirmisher
posted 03-13-07 10:16 PM EDT (US)     428 / 445       
O_O I only just realised this but Sevastopol affects TCs too!

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KingSteve3721
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posted 03-13-07 11:36 PM EDT (US)     429 / 445       
Yeah, sweet ain't it?

Assuming both players are staying in colonial with constant vil production, the port would outboom the Russian. But, if they have the equal number of TCs with x/=/1, then the Russian would outboom the port.

Keep in mind that the Russian has cheaper vils (90f), so this is a factor to consider if both sides are heavily fighting.


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LordKivlov
Royal Guard
posted 03-14-07 00:14 AM EDT (US)     430 / 445       
Not to mention Russia has a powerful anti-artillery cav unit that can run off and pin the ports villagers once his artillery is dead and cheap spammable units to overwhelm the flimsy hp'd cassadores and HI Muskets.

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GreatViet
Skirmisher
posted 03-14-07 00:47 AM EDT (US)     431 / 445       
powerful anti artiley cav ... lol
LordKivlov
Royal Guard
posted 03-14-07 01:17 AM EDT (US)     432 / 445       
Ahhh so you've never played against a Russian player who can control his Opri's properly then?

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GreatViet
Skirmisher
posted 03-14-07 01:29 AM EDT (US)     433 / 445       
oh so u only play vs russia or otto with their sick cav archers then..
As_Saffah
Scenario Reviewer
posted 03-14-07 02:25 PM EDT (US)     434 / 445       

Quoted from YouHeDad:

Question: Does this patch only affect the Warchiefs expansion? Are similar issues going to be addressed for those that choose not to play TWC? Are they even still patching AOE3, or is all ES's concentration on TWC. It seems that AOE3 and TWC are seperate games in WCG, so I'm assuming there needs to be balance fixes for both, as if they are indeed seperate games..

Look at the OP...it's a TWC specific patch. Not that there aren't still balance issues with vanilla, but this is a sign they're moving onward and focusing on TWC, partly because that's where the money is, and also because the balance issues in TWC are more severe than those in vanilla.

Catabre
BFME2H Replay Reviewer - Library Guildsman
posted 03-14-07 02:31 PM EDT (US)     435 / 445       
Thats gay the organ guns are to good. They shouldn't have done that!!!!
StonewallJ
Seraph Emeritus
(id: Conquistador34)
posted 03-14-07 02:35 PM EDT (US)     436 / 445       
Actually, the patch is for AoE3 too:

http://forum.agecommunity.com/ibb/posts.aspx?postID=439491
http://www.agecommunity.com/patch1_11.aspx


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d53man
Skirmisher
posted 03-14-07 06:43 PM EDT (US)     437 / 445       
unlan bug fixed, hm... im gonna go play germany!!!
Dutch nerf to fast halbs, im not gonna play them now.
my favorite unit was the fp. They ruined it!!
lol
Arvedui
Messiah of Fail
(id: ashwin13)
posted 03-14-07 10:56 PM EDT (US)     438 / 445       
of course, link the main page here, not to MY discussion thread. Hmmmph! BTW, I can't download the patch until I backup all my files from my mod, and I'm too lazy to do it now. Great. Tell me how my French are doing!

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DBGT44
AoMH Review Team
posted 03-15-07 07:11 AM EDT (US)     439 / 445       
crap! Abus got nerfed.

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egel
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posted 03-15-07 03:32 PM EDT (US)     440 / 445       
Nice!!! But why the rod nerf?

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The Crazy Idiot
Skirmisher
posted 03-15-07 09:00 PM EDT (US)     441 / 445       
This patch did little to balance the UP civs.
KingSteve3721
Skirmisher
posted 03-15-07 11:23 PM EDT (US)     442 / 445       
nerfing OP civs=balancing UP civs

Although i do think they need a little more.


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zion_CDawg
Skirmisher
posted 03-16-07 05:30 PM EDT (US)     443 / 445       
Post patch view:

Dutch halbs are still fast enough to make the card worthwhile, and if you luck out and get a map with incas, Dutch are OP again ; Dutch still has strongest late colonial, early fortress economy providing they can get the food needed to get it going!

Germany: played against them a couple games. usage seems to have jumped up, i'm seeing them a lot now. very competitive now in team games, not sure about 1v1.

Aztecs: love the faster start, miss the good eco boost

Spain: still needs a further shipment boost IMO

Iros: great house is still way to OP. FP are still too OP, but not so bad that they cant be taken down with superior numbers now.

Brits: i'm never making HI against them again. except maybe Dutch Halbs on Andes...



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[This message has been edited by ZION_CDawg (edited 03-16-2007 @ 05:31 PM).]

MockHamill
Skirmisher
posted 03-16-07 06:15 PM EDT (US)     444 / 445       
My initial impression of the patch was great.

Then I played my first ten 1.03 games and became very negative.

Now I think my opinion has bounced back a bit. Most civs are actually balanced. Iro, Spain, Dutch and France are still stronger then the rest but the difference is less then in 1.02.

Lately, as Aztecs, I actually fear Russians more then Spanish.

[This message has been edited by MockHamill (edited 03-16-2007 @ 07:41 PM).]

James Lock
Skirmisher
posted 03-16-07 06:51 PM EDT (US)     445 / 445       
I fear aztecs more than Spain as Russia :P

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