You must be logged in to post messages.
Please login or register

General Discussions
Moderated by Maffia, LordKivlov, JimXIX

Hop to:    
Welcome! You are not logged in. Please Login or Register.24 replies
Age of Empires III Heaven » Forums » General Discussions » Abus Hitpoints?
Bottom
Topic Subject:Abus Hitpoints?
cyspur
Skirmisher
posted 03-09-07 08:17 AM EDT (US)         
Does this term indicate the quality of the unit? Eg. an abus gun has 130HP against the 100 of a Crossbowman.

Also i see the abus gun mentioned as a siege unit, does this show they are good against buildings? Why are they called gunpowder troopers? Thx for any reply

AuthorReplies:
Brtnboarder495
Skirmisher
posted 03-09-07 08:21 AM EDT (US)     1 / 24       
Your forgetting the 50% ranged resistance. The only viable counter to abus would be melee cav, unfortunetly, melee cav is currently the weakest type of unit in the game besides lancers and cuirs.

So, in essence abus have 260 effective ranged HP in colonial. Crossbows would have 111 effective ranged HP.


Gameranger: _NiGhThAwK_
schildpad
Skirmisher
posted 03-09-07 09:55 AM EDT (US)     2 / 24       
HP is hitpoints.

If a unit has 100 hp, and another units has 10 attack, then every attack it will lose 10 HP. (neglecting armor).

Abus guns do siege damage, meaning that they dont have to worry about armor, since armor doesnt work vs siege damage.

They are called gunpowder troopers because their weapon uses gunpowder


"such a kind fellow!" ~ ķįŋğ_Ćħŗĩ_ĬĬ

Furby killer should be crowned leader of AOE forum ~ [SW_GD]Teutonic

cyspur
Skirmisher
posted 03-09-07 11:03 AM EDT (US)     3 / 24       

Quote:

So, in essence abus have 260 effective ranged HP in colonial. Crossbows would have 111 effective ranged HP.

thx for the reply Brtnboarder, but how did you work that out?


Quote:

If a unit has 100 hp, and another units has 10 attack, then every attack it will lose 10 HP. (neglecting armor).

Abus guns do siege damage, meaning that they dont have to worry about armor, since armor doesnt work vs siege damage.

They are called gunpowder troopers because their weapon uses gunpowder

thx a lot got that schildpad

XploSionS
Skirmisher
posted 03-09-07 11:12 AM EDT (US)     4 / 24       
its quite simple to work it out

just hink of it as if the range resist is .1 then 10% of damage is mitigated and if its .4 range resist then its 40% damage mitigated


eso name: _XploSionS__

===quit due to the many many whinge and whine topics===
schildpad
Skirmisher
posted 03-09-07 11:46 AM EDT (US)     5 / 24       
so the damage that is received = attack*(1-resistance)


and their effective HP = HP/(1-resistance)


"such a kind fellow!" ~ ķįŋğ_Ćħŗĩ_ĬĬ

Furby killer should be crowned leader of AOE forum ~ [SW_GD]Teutonic

[This message has been edited by schildpad (edited 03-09-2007 @ 11:48 AM).]

cyspur
Skirmisher
posted 03-10-07 03:26 AM EDT (US)     6 / 24       
thx guys & if the ranged resis was 100% what HP would it be then?

[This message has been edited by cyspur (edited 03-10-2007 @ 03:28 AM).]

schildpad
Skirmisher
posted 03-10-07 07:38 AM EDT (US)     7 / 24       
HP/(1-1)=HP/0=infinite

"such a kind fellow!" ~ ķįŋğ_Ćħŗĩ_ĬĬ

Furby killer should be crowned leader of AOE forum ~ [SW_GD]Teutonic

GreatViet
Skirmisher
posted 03-10-07 10:26 AM EDT (US)     8 / 24       
xbow has 125 range hp .. someone has a terrible math skill.. GO BACK to grade 2!
CowStick
Skirmisher
posted 03-10-07 10:46 AM EDT (US)     9 / 24       
Wtf viet, xbows have 100 HP, and 20% resist. That means 120 ranged HP.
GreatViet
Skirmisher
posted 03-10-07 10:54 AM EDT (US)     10 / 24       
.... pff... no need to say go check ur math also ...

if u have 120 range damage on xbow it will be 0.8X 120 =96...

125 X 0.8 = 100 = dead xbow..
got it ?

blakeyboi14
Skirmisher
posted 03-10-07 10:57 AM EDT (US)     11 / 24       
I thought abus were infantry?

-blake


Supporter of Gay Marriage.
Garlock13
Skirmisher
posted 03-10-07 12:02 PM EDT (US)     12 / 24       
they are infantry, theyr just clasified into many groups
dumb ES cant clasify them properly

ESO: Garlock
schildpad
Skirmisher
posted 03-10-07 12:14 PM EDT (US)     13 / 24       
Proto files are full of classifications, i doubt they are all used, but it is better to not use a classification then needing another one

"such a kind fellow!" ~ ķįŋğ_Ćħŗĩ_ĬĬ

Furby killer should be crowned leader of AOE forum ~ [SW_GD]Teutonic

DBGT44
AoMH Review Team
posted 03-10-07 12:42 PM EDT (US)     14 / 24       

Quote:

they are infantry, theyr just clasified into many groups
dumb ES cant clasify them properly

No actually they are classified as Seige units. They are counter infantry and counter artillery. Also to make sure check them in the Editor. It says [ ART Abus Gun , not INF Abus Gun ]

Shadow


Reconcile not with the fear of the snake, but embrace it as your own...

[This message has been edited by DBGT44 (edited 03-10-2007 @ 12:42 PM).]

kuzyk
Skirmisher
posted 03-10-07 12:51 PM EDT (US)     15 / 24       
abus are no longer siege troopers.

unit chart

schildpad
Skirmisher
posted 03-10-07 01:37 PM EDT (US)     16 / 24       
@dbgt, please not again, this is getting boring. They are former light inf

"such a kind fellow!" ~ ķįŋğ_Ćħŗĩ_ĬĬ

Furby killer should be crowned leader of AOE forum ~ [SW_GD]Teutonic

Brtnboarder495
Skirmisher
posted 03-10-07 03:40 PM EDT (US)     17 / 24       
Sorry, I thought xbows had 10% RR, if they have 20% RR then it's still not 120HP. You don't multiply 1.2*100 to get their RR, you divide 100 by .8 (1-.2), which gets you their true RR. Don't believe me and schilpad? Try it in the editor.

So xbows have 125 effective ranged HP.


Gameranger: _NiGhThAwK_
cyspur
Skirmisher
posted 03-11-07 05:06 AM EDT (US)     18 / 24       
thx for shedding light on the matter every1.
Where is this editor Brtnboarder mentions?

[This message has been edited by cyspur (edited 03-11-2007 @ 05:07 AM).]

Angel Walker
Skirmisher
(id: Just a player)
posted 03-11-07 09:37 AM EDT (US)     19 / 24       
You can access it in game... If I remember correctly, it is in Help/Options -> Editor

Quote:

No actually they are classified as Seige units. They are counter infantry and counter artillery. Also to make sure check them in the Editor. It says

Please, lets not confuse the poor forummer...


ESO - Walker

>> Napoleonic Era --> Visit their Homepage!
"Holy *****" > Thunder (Ensemble Studios)

Retired from AoE3. But I do play AoK HD in Steam now and then.
Hockeystar
Skirmisher
posted 03-11-07 10:03 AM EDT (US)     20 / 24       
Walker, I have a question. Whats the difference between ranged resist and hand resist in terms of armour?
Angel Walker
Skirmisher
(id: Just a player)
posted 03-11-07 10:07 AM EDT (US)     21 / 24       
Well, the first applies to ranged attacks, the other to melee (hand) attacks!

I thought that was pretty obvious


ESO - Walker

>> Napoleonic Era --> Visit their Homepage!
"Holy *****" > Thunder (Ensemble Studios)

Retired from AoE3. But I do play AoK HD in Steam now and then.
cyspur
Skirmisher
posted 03-18-07 01:39 PM EDT (US)     22 / 24       
so new effective ranged HP 4 da colonial Abus is 162.5 whereas before it was 260
My maths ok?
Brtnboarder495
Skirmisher
posted 03-18-07 02:25 PM EDT (US)     23 / 24       
Yes

Gameranger: _NiGhThAwK_
cyspur
Skirmisher
posted 03-19-07 04:46 AM EDT (US)     24 / 24       
thank you Brtnboarder
You must be logged in to post messages.
Please login or register

Hop to:    

Age of Empires III Heaven | HeavenGames