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Topic Subject:Saloon?
Destiny_Devil
Skirmisher
posted 03-12-07 04:08 PM EDT (US)         
I just wanted to know how saloons actually work, are the mercanaries that are in them map specific or just random.
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Medio
Skirmisher
(id: Mediolanus)
posted 03-12-07 04:18 PM EDT (US)     1 / 24       
just random. Outlaws are map-dependant.
Rion
Skirmisher
posted 03-14-07 03:44 AM EDT (US)     2 / 24       
Are you sure? I've played on Caribbean three times, and all times the saloon had Pirates, Mamelukes and Fusiliers.
Medio
Skirmisher
(id: Mediolanus)
posted 03-14-07 03:55 AM EDT (US)     3 / 24       
I've played NWT 2 times behind each other, with different mercs (can't remember which though).
Angel Walker
Skirmisher
(id: Just a player)
posted 03-14-07 12:46 PM EDT (US)     4 / 24       
It was probably just a coincidence!

I'm pretty sure mercs are random.


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Braenn
Skirmisher
posted 03-14-07 02:52 PM EDT (US)     5 / 24       
Just asked SOLUS, They are based per map.

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Medio
Skirmisher
(id: Mediolanus)
posted 03-14-07 03:15 PM EDT (US)     6 / 24       
They're not. Here are some screens for proof.

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StonewallJ
Seraph Emeritus
(id: Conquistador34)
posted 03-14-07 03:23 PM EDT (US)     7 / 24       
Ya, they're random...

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Braenn
Skirmisher
posted 03-14-07 04:02 PM EDT (US)     8 / 24       
SOLUS just got pwnt.

'Scuse me while I annoy him :P


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StonewallJ
Seraph Emeritus
(id: Conquistador34)
posted 03-14-07 04:06 PM EDT (US)     9 / 24       
I'm sure he'll love that...

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Destiny_Devil
Skirmisher
posted 03-14-07 07:21 PM EDT (US)     10 / 24       
thanks for the replied, although I think they should be map based really gives the salon so much more potential.
Garlock13
Skirmisher
posted 03-14-07 09:44 PM EDT (US)     11 / 24       
i could have sworn they where map based...i still dont use'm anyhow

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Eicho
Skirmisher
posted 03-14-07 09:56 PM EDT (US)     12 / 24       
every time (late fortress) i have spare wood, i always build a saloon.

the toher day, i was a dutch on hispaniola, my ally was a my friend (lvl 10) im lvl 20, and this was vs lvl 15 and 18.
it was a fair game.
i dotn wanted to loose so my friend (im teaching to him)
dotn desilusionate.
i SPAMMED FAST HALBS (lame, i know) i build a saloon and .. MAMELUKES!!

so mams + halbs, unsstopable. i won.

saloon can be very good
my favourites arehiglanerds OP and mams OP

Arvedui
Messiah of Fail
(id: ashwin13)
posted 03-14-07 10:14 PM EDT (US)     13 / 24       
To tell you the truth, the Saloon is quite useless. The mercs aren't very good and cost a lot. The cards are infinitely better.

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Medio
Skirmisher
(id: Mediolanus)
posted 03-15-07 02:54 AM EDT (US)     14 / 24       
*cough* German outlaws *cough*
Rion
Skirmisher
posted 03-15-07 05:29 AM EDT (US)     15 / 24       
Perhaps some mercenaries are the dependant on the map, while others are random? In Mediolanus' screenshots, the saloon had mamelukes both times. Perhaps others should try playing caribbean and the map Mediolanus was playing, so they could see if the theory is true.
Gomezd
Skirmisher
posted 03-15-07 06:55 AM EDT (US)     16 / 24       
Saloons are far from useless, havent you ever lost all 5 of your mamelukes and hoped you can get more? say you are germany and really need some sort of musketeer unit in age III and you get Highlanders? what about jaegers they seem to be very very cost effective even when trained form the saloon.

What if you control the water and all the fish has run out, you have your boats fishing gold, dont tell me making a few lil bombards is a bad idea when you have surplus of gold.

I find saloons very very useful

Medio
Skirmisher
(id: Mediolanus)
posted 03-15-07 12:14 PM EDT (US)     17 / 24       
Screenie no3:

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It seems to be totally random.

OttovonBismarck
Skirmisher
posted 03-15-07 03:29 PM EDT (US)     18 / 24       
I was always under the impression that saloon mercs were random.
Catabre
BFME2H Replay Reviewer - Library Guildsman
posted 03-15-07 05:02 PM EDT (US)     19 / 24       
Well you always get priates and Barbary corsairs on Hispaniola and Caribbean. And saloons are nice with Dance Halls and Improved Mercs.
Sens_fan
Skirmisher
posted 03-15-07 06:55 PM EDT (US)     20 / 24       
The outlaw type units are always map dependant, however the other two mercs are randon, though I do not think that it is randomized from the hole selection of mercenaries. Maybe it chooses randomly from a list of maybe 6 mercenaries that are map dependant.
Catabre
BFME2H Replay Reviewer - Library Guildsman
posted 03-15-07 07:06 PM EDT (US)     21 / 24       
Not for caribbean or Hispaniola you always get barbary corsairs.

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Eicho
Skirmisher
posted 03-15-07 07:28 PM EDT (US)     22 / 24       
^^^Thats not true, last time i got mamelukes and hackpells on hispaniola.
The Elite Lord
Skirmisher
posted 03-15-07 08:47 PM EDT (US)     23 / 24       
I never really used the Saloon when playing a game.

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Garlock13
Skirmisher
posted 03-16-07 00:00 AM EDT (US)     24 / 24       
outlaws suck, if i where to build a saloon, i would train mercs
cooliolio! dutch no rush + saloon = mercenary pwnage (lotsa coin, and low civilian pop)

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