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Topic Subject:What Civ should i use
spyderc85
Skirmisher
posted 02-03-09 09:31 AM EDT (US)         
I am new to the game, I am currently using the British with mixed Success. i start off by sending all my villagers to gather food so i can advance to colonial fast. Once i get to Colonial i use my villager cards and start to harvest all the resources. I usally have about 25-40 villagers gathering resources. I start building Muskateers, Dragoons, and Field Guns, I build towers around my TC for protection. I advance to Fortress around 7-10 min. I send a fortress card and build close to my base for added protection. I upgrade my musketeers to redcoats and i upgrade my dragoons. The Problem i run into is after about the 15 min i get attacked and my Civ. usually folds, or if i survive im on the defensive for the rest of the game! What am i doing wrong? Is the problem that i am the British? If so what Civ should I be? I usually always end up playing against someone who is Ottoman, is that a bad matchup? Do I need more Villagers? Do I need to go with Different Troops?
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ckei
Skirmisher
posted 02-03-09 09:56 AM EDT (US)     1 / 20       
eh, u cant make field guns and dragoons in colonial...

And yes, Ottoman vs brits is an bad match up for the brits

And constant settler production is a MUST.


You should take a look at this,its a little bit old, but I think you should take a look

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spyderc85
Skirmisher
posted 02-03-09 10:55 AM EDT (US)     2 / 20       
Thanks for the Link, i know i cant build field guns and dragoons in Colonial lol. I only listed them as the units I build sorry for the misunderstanding

[This message has been edited by spyderc85 (edited 02-03-2009 @ 11:01 AM).]

TwentyLemon
Skirmisher
posted 02-03-09 11:29 AM EDT (US)     3 / 20       
Don't stop building vils. 99% of players will tell you not to stop unless you hit your cap. I say exceed it but I play as the dutch. I can afford to go ever 50 pop without much consequence.
To me, you're wasting too much res on defence too. Problem probably is you're way outgunned. Build more army too. With a load of vils it's easy to start spamming more vils and lots of musks and falcs.
There was a big post regarding british gameplay made recently, look through the strategy section.
As_Saffah
Scenario Reviewer
posted 02-03-09 02:16 PM EDT (US)     4 / 20       
Sounds like you need a bit more map control. Early and aggressive scouting combined with raiding from a stables might buy you the time you need to see the rewards from booming. A few shipped hussars + some homemade ones striking every so often at enemy vills and scouting aggressively. See some unprotected choppers? Forward barracks in your front lawn? Powerful natives, especially ones that give you a ranged infantry unit? Take advantage. Especially if you do a bit of manor booming as Ceres describes. Not overboard, you want to make 2-3 extra manors per Age so you will have a bit more eco and a LOT more room for a bigger army. Save the rest of the wood for military buildings, trading posts, and upgrades.

Fort placement: I've had games where it was wise to put the fort as far foward as possible, on the principle that the best defense is a good offense. Streaming RG musks/grens/cav into their base from a little ways away is better than letting them boom unmolested while they bottle you up in your own walls. Eventually you will run out of a critical resource, or they will batter their way in.

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[This message has been edited by As_Saffah (edited 02-03-2009 @ 02:21 PM).]

Tyler McIntosh
Skirmisher
posted 02-03-09 03:27 PM EDT (US)     5 / 20       
You don't need to change your civ, you just might need to change what you do.
Lord_Sami
Skirmisher
posted 02-03-09 03:47 PM EDT (US)     6 / 20       
Try out many civs and see wich ones u have the most fun playing with.

And yes, the game is for enterntainment, not to use op civs xD

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Tyler McIntosh
Skirmisher
posted 02-03-09 03:57 PM EDT (US)     7 / 20       
Yes lord_sami is right, most people don't play for rank, they just play for fun, it's a very entertaining game if you just have fun.
spyderc85
Skirmisher
posted 02-03-09 09:21 PM EDT (US)     8 / 20       
thanx guys this is all good advice, and yes i do play to enjoy its just hard to enjoy when im getting the crap kicked out of me in 10 min lol.
Tyler McIntosh
Skirmisher
posted 02-03-09 09:22 PM EDT (US)     9 / 20       
Well go to the strategy sections and tips section for improving yourself and then just practice and get better.
iTech64
Scenario Reviewer
posted 02-03-09 10:50 PM EDT (US)     10 / 20       
why did lord sami change his avatar??

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A_US_James246
Scenario Reviewer
(id: James246)
posted 02-04-09 00:50 AM EDT (US)     11 / 20       
Maybe because he wanted to?




Tyler McIntosh
Skirmisher
posted 02-04-09 07:01 AM EDT (US)     12 / 20       
I thought his avatar was always jigsaw?
iTech64
Scenario Reviewer
posted 02-04-09 07:30 AM EDT (US)     13 / 20       
it was!

and i was so used to that,,
now its some elmeti...

i think he should change it back

iTech64
Rank: Captain
My Strategies:French Semi-FF | French 2x Musket Rush | French 2x Xbow Rush
My Mapguides: Northwest Territories
Sir_Wouter_E
Skirmisher
posted 02-04-09 10:26 AM EDT (US)     14 / 20       
Also adjust your choice of troops to his. Since Jans are heavy infantry they will win to your dragoons, and considering the small choice of british infantry, you might want to try either to upgrade your longbowmen or grenardiers.
Also, don't give the opponent breathing time. If he loses an army while attacking, attack him, cuz he is low on troops.
Make a small and fast army to raid him while he is attacking, most likely he will not notice you entering his base if hes microing his troops.

If this all doesn't help, just consider a different civilization. Maybe play a few unrated games with your new civ, to be able to discover the full options.
Tyler McIntosh
Skirmisher
posted 02-04-09 03:45 PM EDT (US)     15 / 20       
All I see for samis avatar is jigsaw...where are you seeing something different?
Emperor_Kyle
Skirmisher
posted 02-04-09 05:15 PM EDT (US)     16 / 20       
Maybe the change doesn't show on your comp yet, but it's an elmeti now.

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CrazyLunatic
Veteran Musketeer
posted 02-04-09 07:07 PM EDT (US)     17 / 20       
isn't showing as elmeti for me either...

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Tyler McIntosh
Skirmisher
posted 02-04-09 07:36 PM EDT (US)     18 / 20       
Lol still not seeing the new avatar...
Calier
Skirmisher
posted 02-05-09 02:17 PM EDT (US)     19 / 20       
Find one that fits you, for me it is the French, but try out some strats with comps, an see which one works for you.

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CrazyLunatic
Veteran Musketeer
posted 02-05-09 09:49 PM EDT (US)     20 / 20       
Find one that fits you, for me it is the French, but try out some strats with comps, an see which one works for you.
wow a French treaty player... how unusual... /sarcasm

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