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Topic Subject:What are the best civ for tad in 40 min treaty?
posted 08-10-11 08:33 PM EDT (US)         
I just found out that the French are OP in treaty but not as great otherwise.

So would this be a good ranking for 40 min treaty in tad:

1. French
2. Spain
3. German
4. Brits
5. Port.
6. Russ
7. Dutch
8. Otto

Where would you put India, china and Japan in the above group?


[This message has been edited by pikemenrule (edited 08-10-2011 @ 08:34 PM).]

posted 08-10-11 08:51 PM EDT (US)     1 / 11       
Well you can look at my list I posted in other thread
I thought other thread was for TAD too...

1. France best civ
2. Japan probably number 2
3. China Next!
4. Russia ftw

After that it depends on 1v1 or team....

5. Germany
6. Portuguese
7. British
8. India
9. Otto
10. Spain
Aztec, sioux, Iroquois and Dutch ranked 11-14, not good for 1v1's.

5. Spain
6. Brits
7. Ports
8. Germany
9. Iroquois
10. India
11/12. Otto/Aztec
Dutch, and Sioux ranked somewhere below. not great civs at all."

First 4 civs are considered OP. (china is sometimes considered NOT OP if its not played on the map andes)

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[This message has been edited by StormComing (edited 08-10-2011 @ 08:53 PM).]

posted 08-10-11 09:22 PM EDT (US)     2 / 11       
Thanks Storm,

What does "ftw" next to Russia mean and what makes them so strong?

At first I thought Dutch would be good but their eco is what makes them weak, is that correct?

posted 08-10-11 11:15 PM EDT (US)     3 / 11       
Correct. You could be dutch and totally OWN your opponent for like... 10-15 minutes.... then.... you will run out of eco and cant make units anymore lol.

ftw = for the win. kind of an expression to say that they are totally awesome

Russia strong becuase it can make insti musk, instant halbs almost insti strets, oprichnic unit is super high seige, good economy, musk able to make forts, and villagers are able to make walls super fast, and fast training strong morts.

If i plyed russia, i could basiclly wall you in your base, and control the entire map 5 minutes after treaty ends lol.

They can control a map better then any civ. super mobile and deadly seige units.

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posted 08-10-11 11:40 PM EDT (US)     4 / 11       
Thanks Storm,

I was really surprised to see Japan and China on your list.

I have never played any of the asian civs are they difficult to play?

I will for sure try out the Russians, are they good enough
to beat the French on a good day?

thanks again
posted 08-11-11 00:26 AM EDT (US)     5 / 11       
Well its not necessarily MY list.... it is but, thousands of other people consider it their list too :P Age Com has a huge group of treaty players so basically everyone knoes it there....

hard to say... france SHOULD always beat all civs, so it will just depend on how well each of you play... you will win if you outplay him.... but if he is good you have no chance... haha so it just depends on both of your skill level

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posted 08-11-11 04:40 AM EDT (US)     6 / 11       
I laugh at that list.

Row row row your boat
Gently down the stream
Belts off, trowsers down
Ain't life a scream!
posted 08-11-11 09:12 AM EDT (US)     7 / 11       
I laugh @ you laughing?
I know it would be nice to think that AOE or TWC or TAD still held secrets for us, things we could debate about n stuff?? but unfortunately almost everything about this game has already been figured out, and set into stone solid fact years ago.

If you look at more earliest posts on this forum you will see me arguing with everybody that france wasnt op, that spain and port, and japan could beat france easy. Or you'll see i said france had a worse eco then india in TR. I was just an ignorant noob, who couldnt accept what hundreds of people were saying about a set in stone fact

Once i actually TRIED the MU"s for myself i learned that everyone else was right, i was wrong.

So laugh if you wish, but looking at your rank and experience, looks like you just haven't read up on enough facts

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posted 08-11-11 11:13 AM EDT (US)     8 / 11       
My brother was kind enough to let me drop the Otto and pick up the Russians.

So now he has the French and Germans

And I have the Brits and Russians.

Which one would you pick next, I am guessing it is Japan?
Thanks Storm.

my cards for the brits are below please give your opinion on how I can improve

I am getting to age V at the 16 min mark, I think i can do better

my first 3 cards that I send are the wood cards
text mill
royal mint
sust arg
2 factories (will send them ASP)
Glor rev.
---wood trade at 10.00 min mark----
all military up grades
fencing school
riding school
2 rockets
25 indians

It thinks I should get to age V more quickly but it almost always at the 15-16 mark left in treaty.

I first make market
then trading post
I make as quick as I can manor houses for free vill.

I put as many as i can on gold to build up for wood trade
Thanks again Storm

[This message has been edited by pikemenrule (edited 08-11-2011 @ 11:25 AM).]

posted 08-12-11 00:04 AM EDT (US)     9 / 11       
I am by no means an expert at the Brits but I don't think u need all the wood cards.
posted 08-13-11 07:12 AM EDT (US)     10 / 11       
How many of the wood cards would you use?

What would you replace them with?

posted 08-14-11 10:08 PM EDT (US)     11 / 11       
well i use the wood trade with Brits that is all i need personally. Well what you are missing are livestock upgrades. If you are using livestock then use all the cards to boost it u can.
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