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Topic Subject:Defeating Well-Mixed Heavy and Light Infantry Armies
posted 01-15-07 11:22 PM EDT (US)         
So, playing as sioux, i am greatly disadvantaged when i face armies of well-mixed heavy and light infantry. i mean, there is no way i can figure out how to defeat theM?

for instance: abus/jans or strelets/musket

actually, these are the only combos that i've seen "mix" perfectly. like they are exactly mixed in... like instead of all strelets there is a musket in place of the strelet

my usual colonial army is composed of 10-20 cetans and 10-15 axe riders. and as you know axe rider > strelets/abus and cetans > muskets/jans ...but when they are mixed in so perfectly i just get owned... AND they are all ranged so maybe someone knows how to counter skirm/bow types without cav pls share

question for y'all: How do you beat it!?

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posted 01-16-07 02:05 AM EDT (US)     1 / 7       
Except against Abus Guns, a pure previously-known-as-light-infantry army will win that (something like pure Wakina).
posted 01-16-07 02:55 AM EDT (US)     2 / 7       
AR + Cetan will beat most of those combos with good micro. Including jans + abus.

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posted 01-16-07 03:09 AM EDT (US)     3 / 7       
so basically it comes down to good micro? well poop.
posted 01-16-07 08:58 AM EDT (US)     4 / 7       
Skirmisher Infantry versus Heavy Infantry micro is a skill that just takes a lot of practice. You'll have to find out how many units kill the other (i.e: 4 colonial dutch skirmishers for a colonial musketeer) and then train in selecting exactly 4 at the time (you'll notice that your units always stand a set distance from each other) because using groups and teams takes too much time, when you take into account you'll be taking some losses as well.

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posted 01-17-07 09:29 AM EDT (US)     5 / 7       
Cetans are pretty up there when it comes to LI. So just spam cetans. Not sure when it comes to abus though... Other wise just spam wakinas. They're are so cheap and easy to mass and intimidate your opponent. IMO

If you keep spamming wakinas, he will be forced to change the balance of his army to more abus or whatever and then bring in the raiders. Another thing, if he has jans and abus and you bring the axe riders to the front, he will probably stick his jans in melee and come forward to attack the riders. Then you back your riders out and circle his army while your cetans pick off his jans.

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posted 01-17-07 11:44 AM EDT (US)     6 / 7       
personally id just spam rifle riders
but thats just me :P
or bow men and dog soldiers maybe o_O (if i can be bothered waiting / sending 1500 food for some)

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posted 01-17-07 12:54 PM EDT (US)     7 / 7       
since HI has a longer range, he will either have to move his abus with the jans, missing shots while you shoot him, or, in the case of worse players, he will leave his abus unprotected behind the jans and you can run by with your cav. if he keeps them toghether maybe spam only LI? or focus on hi first until he has too few to kill your AR
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