Fuzzy044
Skirmisher
posted 03-03-09 10:27 PM EDT (US)
I play as French and lately ive been having a lot of problems playing against Ottomans because of the jannisary rush coming in before im not ready does anyone have a build order/strategy to stop this menacing problem -
Thank You
Fuzzy044
Skirmisher
posted 03-03-09 11:34 PM
EDT (US)
5 / 26
I ussually advance with 14 CdB a market and 2 barracks and 40 population at around 5 i have 13 Xbows but they die to quick because the Jannissarys melee them
Eternal War0
Skirmisher
posted 03-04-09 01:15 AM
EDT (US)
9 / 26
Sounds like your problem is that they have superior micro. Your Xbows should not be engaging the Janissaries in volleys never mind hand to hand.
Hit and run them. Newbs will swear at you for a while but if they are using Ottoman Rush it's not really like they can complain about what you do.
A_US_James246
Scenario Reviewer
(id: James246)
posted 03-04-09 01:22 AM
EDT (US)
10 / 26
Like they said, use X-Bows, with some Pikes incase he uses 3 Hussars.
Just pray to god he doesn't make some Abus.
mathemagician198
Skirmisher
posted 03-04-09 09:05 AM
EDT (US)
12 / 26
I remember Ender Ward arguing that a French can beat a Jan rush simply by making tons of muskets, as your eco is just so much better than the ottomans. Esp if you have problems microing your xbows properly, this might be a suggestion. Muskets tend to look after themselves (but I still encourage you to focus fire). Sending 8 xbows as first card in colo and making muskets locally should to the trick. As soon as you see abu guns, make a stable and start making hussars. xbows suck so hard vs abus, which is why I prefer musket/hussar to pike/xbow vs ottos.
Tyler McIntosh
Skirmisher
posted 03-04-09 04:03 PM
EDT (US)
16 / 26
To beat ottoman player, you want xbows and micro them well, and draw him intou your base for tc fire on him.
Tyler McIntosh
Skirmisher
posted 03-04-09 06:21 PM
EDT (US)
18 / 26
Sorry I don't read many of the other post, I just reply to the topic.
Teutonic Twit
Scenario Reviewer
posted 03-04-09 08:47 PM
EDT (US)
19 / 26
A trick I use with Brit's LBs is to build a long fence in front of the TC. Put a gate in it right in front of the TC (roughly the middle of the fence). When the Janissary rush wait til they come around the fence to melee and just step through the gate to the other side of the fence and keep shooting. repeat as necessary.
Fuzzy044
Skirmisher
posted 03-04-09 09:41 PM
EDT (US)
20 / 26
K ill advance with 13 then. how do i get 10 musks and 8 xbows by 5:30? i know i get the xbows by shiping them but the musks what do i do between discovery and colonial to get enought food and gold and fast enough?
Fuzzy044
Skirmisher
posted 03-04-09 10:35 PM
EDT (US)
23 / 26
Thanks for the link it was helpful but i found it kind of slow, so I'm sticking to the microing of Xbows.
Thanks everyone you were really helpful and now i can stop Ottomans.
Tyler McIntosh
Skirmisher
posted 03-05-09 07:05 AM
EDT (US)
24 / 26
No problem, good luck, send us some post cards (records) on how you do :P.
Fuzzy044
Skirmisher
posted 03-05-09 09:30 PM
EDT (US)
25 / 26
Ive won 3 games against the ottomans and 1 i lost where i had to resign.
Tyler McIntosh
Skirmisher
posted 03-06-09 07:06 AM
EDT (US)
26 / 26
Well thats not too bad, whats your rank, and waht kind of ranks are you playing?