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Von Mackensens Hat
Skirmisher
(id: DrNick)
posted 05-05-10 12:32 PM EDT (US)         
So Dio informed me on Facebook that the old book thread was destickied. I went to post in it and ask why and then found out it was archived as well.

Pretty sure that's some major bullshit right there. So I started this one. I expect it to be stickied ASAP. TIA.

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So what are you reading right now?

I'm rereading Democracy by Joan Didion. It's a book with great atmosphere and a lot of fun Politics vis a vis the end of the Vietnam war. I highly recommend it.

Dr Nick
I never forget a face, but in your case I'll be glad to make an exception.
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Meteora
Skirmisher
posted 10-06-11 04:29 PM EDT (US)     151 / 171       
what's up beautifuls. i haven't been reading at all lately, but in july i read american gods by neil gaiman which was zzzzzz. anyway though the main reason i'm posting here is because i just order some books off amazon, including the book of chameleons which i think shrink recommended like a decade ago but i've never been able to find in a local bookstore, and also one about ohio or something that drnick recommended. so yeah.

right now i'm reading another book of short stories by murakami which i kind of like i guess, but i have no thoughts to share about them.

haven't watched too many movies either, although a few weeks ago i saw a few russian movies.

one was The Cranes Are Flying, which was really simple and even cliché storywise, but i thought it was kind of touching otherwise so i liked it (but didn't love it). it's a movie from the 50s i think that takes place during wwii in russia (obv.). only one scene takes a place on the front though so it's a movie about the homefront.

then i watched stilyagi (i guess that translates loosely to 'hipsters') which is a musical and really fun to watch, but from a story standpoint it's awful so that made it pretty unsatisfying. still it might be worth watching even though i can't give it much praise.

lastly i watched russian ark, which was kind of boring and i don't think i understood the point, but it did have some really interesting scenes. the whole movie was shot in one take and also it's all 1st person pov, which is why it's interesting at times, but aside from that gimmick i'm not sure there's any other reason to watch it (though like i said i might have just missed the point so idk). still for some reason i hold it in a positive light whenever i think about it.

i plan on watching solyaris soon but it's apparently like three hours long and i never feel like committing to it.

edit: also last week i purchased moneyball (yeah i'm lame for waiting until the movie came out to read it) and also onyx and crake by margaret atwood because it looked more interesting than the handmaiden's tale which apparently everyone loves. i'm looking forward to reading both of those as well as the others i just ordered, so hopefully i'll get back in the reading habit again.

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Shrink
on the trender train
posted 10-09-11 06:11 PM EDT (US)     152 / 171       
Glad you got the book of chameleons, though i'm sure it won't live up to my hype... still, i like it a lottttttttttt

General_II
Skirmisher
posted 10-10-11 04:42 AM EDT (US)     153 / 171       
Not quite film, but I just finished the fourth season of Breaking Bad courtesy of tonight's season finale, and it was glorious.

And read-reading selected writings from Capote. I've enjoyed some of the stories quite a bit, Breakfast at Tiffany's was eh.
Von Mackensens Hat
Skirmisher
(id: DrNick)
posted 10-21-11 05:22 PM EDT (US)     154 / 171       
onyx and crake by margaret atwood because it looked more interesting than the handmaiden's tale which apparently everyone loves.
I read A Handmade's Tale and did enjoy it quite a bit. Though it was a bit heavy handed, the perspective was very interesting.

I haven't read anything else by Atwood, though so let me know if they're good.

Dr Nick
I never forget a face, but in your case I'll be glad to make an exception.
Meteora
Skirmisher
posted 10-21-11 08:34 PM EDT (US)     155 / 171       
well i haven't read any of that yet because i'm lame but i will be sure to let you know once i finally get around to it!

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As_Saffah
Scenario Reviewer
posted 11-03-11 02:05 PM EDT (US)     156 / 171       
Looking for a good book or three for my dad, who loves English history.

Thought about Wolf Hall some after finding a link to it in someone's blog i look at from time to time for ideas about scenarios.

I'd like to skip the romantic-historical novels and "popular history of X" type novels if possible. Anything spanning say, King Alfred to King George V is fair game.

He's fairly well read and keeps up to date, so if there are any recent (~18 months) suggestions, they are welcome.

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Von Mackensens Hat
Skirmisher
(id: DrNick)
posted 11-07-11 06:37 PM EDT (US)     157 / 171       
I got nothing. I don't read enough historical fiction to be able to recommend something in such a specific category.

Dr Nick
I never forget a face, but in your case I'll be glad to make an exception.
Thomas Sterns
Skirmisher
posted 12-15-11 08:24 PM EDT (US)     158 / 171       
dayyum just finished a connecticut yankee in king arthur's court. holy shit. back in high school and middle school when we read huck finn and tom sawyer i wasn't that impressed. but i feel as though that was childish ignorance. i can really see now why he is considered the great american author.

rereading the brothers karamazov. thumbs up. 100 pages in and loving every word of it(i mean its the brothers k, is there any other options?). kurt vonnegut says in slaughterhouse 5 something along the lines of: everything you need to know about life can be found in the brothers k. and damn is he right.

"In my beginning is my end. In my end is my beginning."
Von Mackensens Hat
Skirmisher
(id: DrNick)
posted 12-18-11 06:30 PM EDT (US)     159 / 171       
Yeah A Conneticut Yankee in King Arthurs Court is really good. Huck Finn is too. Tom Sawyer wasn't as good but you can't win them all.

Dr Nick
I never forget a face, but in your case I'll be glad to make an exception.
Thomas Sterns
Skirmisher
posted 12-19-11 11:31 AM EDT (US)     160 / 171       
Read between 8/31 and 11/12(in somewhat order)
The Wild Things-Dave Eggers-285
The Favorite Game-Leonard Cohen-192
This Side of Paradise-F. Scott Fitzgerald-255
The Girl Who Couldn't Come-Joey Comeau-85
The Namesake-Jhumpa Lahiri-291
Man's Search For Meaning-Viktor E. Frankl-166
The Great Gatsby-F. Scott Fitzgerald-185
The Trial-Franz Kafka-286
Too Far-Rich Shapero-244
Macbeth-Shakespeare-96
Fear and Loathing on the Campaign Trail '72-HST-505
Total: 2509 Pages
Zeitoun-Dave Eggers-314-11/13:11/14
Cat's Cradle-KVJ- -11/15
The Chocolate War-Robert Cormier-194-11/28:11/30
To The Lighthouse-Virginia Woolf-209-11/20:12/1
The Death of Ivan Ilyvich-Leo Tolstoy-56-12/2
A Connecticut Yankee in King Arthur's Court-Mark Twain-333-12/4:12/13
This is an actual record of what I've been reading. As well as various horticulture textbooks.

I've been thinking of all the books I've read lately and am starting to feel old. =/. I'm not yet 20 though. Sigh. Someone say something about because I feel lonely not having anyone to talk to them about.(i returned to central wisconsin)

"In my beginning is my end. In my end is my beginning."
Meteora
Skirmisher
posted 12-19-11 05:55 PM EDT (US)     161 / 171       
The Girl Who Couldn't Come-Joey Comeau-85
haha i read that dude's webcomic

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Von Mackensens Hat
Skirmisher
(id: DrNick)
posted 12-19-11 06:54 PM EDT (US)     162 / 171       
What did you think of the trial? Obviously it's unfinished so it was a little hard to follow at times but I thought it was pretty fascinating.

Dr Nick
I never forget a face, but in your case I'll be glad to make an exception.
Von Mackensens Hat
Skirmisher
(id: DrNick)
posted 12-19-11 06:56 PM EDT (US)     163 / 171       
Also read Babbit.

And Mete, did you ever get Winesburg OH?

Dr Nick
I never forget a face, but in your case I'll be glad to make an exception.

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Meteora
Skirmisher
posted 12-19-11 07:02 PM EDT (US)     164 / 171       
yeah i have it i actually read a few of the stories a week ago but lately i haven't been reading it.

i also read the book of chameleons and moneyball and something else recently and also watched the movie stalker which was amazing, but i didn't feel like writing a post here about any of them for some reason.

edit: also i'm going to read a brothers karalkjdflkjov now and also that mark twain book so thanks for posting in this thread dio. i also want to read other russian literature because everyone always talks about it and i've never read any of it at all.

psuedo second edit (still part of the first edit): i also read oryx and crake (which was not what i was thinking of when i said something else, that was actually a collection of short stories by edgar keret) and it was pretty much heavy handed and awful. the best part is when the teenage boys finish looking at child pornography and get bored watching live executions (get it modern society is all depraved and stuff), they get addicted to an online game called extinctathon which is literally a game of twenty questions. so yes, in the future, it won't be games like call of duty that turns kids into thugs and murderers, it will be games like hangman.

the vast majority of the book was silly in the same way.

edit 2 (real one): i almost forgot, parts of the oryx and crake book were okay (mostly the later ones), and i actually felt pretty ambivalent toward it by the time it ended. it would have been better if the love triangle part had been introduced earlier and the all the dystopian stuff had been more subtle and less stupid.

edit 3: i just want to reiterate that stalker was an AWESOME movie and i loved it. also the book of chameleons was pretty good, not like mind-blowing or anything, but i liked it a lot. i read the whole thing on a plane though while flying to nebraska so i don't remember it all that well unfortunately. also i know nothing about borges so i feel like i would have have gotten a lot more out of the book if i was more versed in him and/or his works, but maybe not (since the gecko apparently was supposed to be a reincarnation of him.

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Shrink
on the trender train
posted 12-21-11 09:11 PM EDT (US)     165 / 171       
I think the gecko being Borges or otherwise human was just a projection from the main albino character (I forget his name). it's one of the reasons i really like the book - the whole narrative is from the man but through the eyes of the gecko which happens to live in his house (cos if his whole inventing new identities, characters, stories stuff) (this might be wrong, i haven't actually read this as an explanation anywhere it's just my interpretation)
i'm not sure if i explained that right and there's other things i like about it too but it's been ages since i read it now and my memory is wayy vague


I just finished reading Cloud Atlas by David Mitchell today, and I love it. can't remember if that book has been mentioned in this thread (or any of it's predecessors) so for all I know you've all read it. Until very recently I hadn't heard of it for some reason

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Thomas Sterns
Skirmisher
posted 01-09-12 09:37 AM EDT (US)     166 / 171       
What did you think of the trial? Obviously it's unfinished so it was a little hard to follow at times but I thought it was pretty fascinating.
I really didn't like it. I thought it was mundane and just moved absurdly. Then in the last ~50 pages it redeemed itself and I valued reading it immensely. It was really brought together and redeemed all the previous pages as well in those last pages. K's demise was extremely well-done and the parable of the law was allegorical elegance at its best. In general though, it seems Kafka's novels are just weak. I read his Amerika six or seven months ago and it was much the same in terms of a lot of poorness then these supreme flashes of brilliance. My friend has a book of parables written by Kafka which is very good. I think Kafka is just a better short story writer which makes sense with his oscillating health condition. It could also be a translation issue. I would actually like to learn to read German at a high level to read Kafka(and Rilke) because his prose is suppose to be so beautiful. I guess you can create these page long sentences(not like Dickins though), legitimately, with German where the clincher of the sentence is determined at the last moment, a strategy Kafka uses often.
yeah i have it i actually read a few of the stories a week ago but lately i haven't been reading it.
My favourite is definitely Respectability. You should share your interpretation of it when you read it.





I'm still plodding through Brothers K. More and more I'm thinking it is the greatest book ever written. My goal is to finish it by next Monday and I will be greatly disappoint myself if I haven't. Working fifty hour weeks and having a lover you spend most free time with doesn't leave much time for reading. =/ I currently have twelve unread books sitting around my room amongst the hundred+ in there and they are actually tormenting me. I sometimes am lounging in there and I can see where they are scattered throughout my room creating a haunting aura. I told my love that I was going to have to see her less because of this feeling of being overwhelmed by my unread books. It did not go over well.

"In my beginning is my end. In my end is my beginning."
As_Saffah
Scenario Reviewer
posted 01-09-12 11:37 AM EDT (US)     167 / 171       
yay new book by Umberto Eco get!

Shhh it's a surprise for my husband.

Any thoughts on what he should expect? I realize I'm sort of asking for spoilers without actually asking for spoilers.

Crunkatog on ESO
Bart331 balance suggestion: aztec: remove civ
Voltiguer: Ender, Sioux in 1.04 will be a top civ, no matter how many layers of Sioux goggles you put on
schildpad on Elephants: ...their mansabdar unit sucks so hard it looks like a black hole
Crunkatog on Steam.
Shrink
on the trender train
posted 04-18-12 12:40 PM EDT (US)     168 / 171       
I fancied reading a modern well-regarded sci-fi novel so I've just finished The Windup Girl by Paolo Bacigalupi. It's pretty good, though some of the future tech (most is old fashioned so not a big problem) confused me - really didn't understand the kink-spring stuff (what exactly kink-springs were and how they work) which was problem during the parts explicitly based in a kink-spring factory...
I also found some of the socio-political themes defined wayyyy too broadly, from the ridiculously powerful GM-food companies to the extremes of the two political ideologies clashing in Bangkok. I would have liked more subtlety and nuance I suppose.
still, it was pr good

Meteora
Skirmisher
posted 03-18-14 01:56 PM EDT (US)     169 / 171       
it's cool that this thread is still sticked and thus can be posted in. i thought about making a similar thread in od but i haven't been reading much lately so it would have been pointless since i would have been unable to keep it alive on my own through the inevitable disinterest by most other forummers.



anyway, like i said i've not read much lately (in the past two years really), thanks mostly to having different jobs and learning other skills and stuff, but anyway now i'm trying to start again. it's really hard to get in the habit, i don't know why.


so i'm partially through a short story collection by edgar keret (not the one i had read in my previous post in this thread). i really like his stories. they're really short and occasionally overly obtuse. but in a good, pretentious way. you feel smart and smug reading them. in a way they're the type of stories that i always wished i could write.


i also found that i bought the book 'ines of my soul' at some point. so i'm trying to read that too. it's slow going at the moment because i'm so out of the habit of reading that i forget to make time to sit down and read it. i don't remember why i bought it tbh. it seems like it could be cool though.
I would have liked more subtlety and nuance I suppose.
subtlety and nuance seems not to be one of sci-fi's strong point, at least when it comes to social commentary. i had that problem with the margaret atwood book i read (which i also mentioned in the last time i posted here).

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Shrink
on the trender train
posted 03-29-14 02:40 PM EDT (US)     170 / 171       
i'm desperately looking for a novel to read right now. i hate being between books because i seriously struggle finding something that interests or grabs me and it's quite annoying. i looked up a bunch of reviews of ines of my soul and though at first it sounded promising a number of negative reactions highlight certain things that i definitely don't like so i won't read it after all.

i did fairly recently read burial rites by hannah kent which was brilliant. jumped right to being one of my favourite books.

but i don't know what's next

Meteora
Skirmisher
posted 03-30-14 08:26 PM EDT (US)     171 / 171       
unfortunately i don't have any suggestions to offer.

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