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Sawyer
Skirmisher
posted 02-20-10 04:07 AM EDT (US)         

Pears: ok i downloaded a few scenerios and it says place the mp3 folders in the "sound" folder but i cant find the sound folder any where please help!
Elpea: Your sound folder is right next to your fart sounds folder.

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Thomas Sterns
Skirmisher
posted 04-27-11 06:56 PM EDT (US)     1901 / 2691       
the twin cities

"In my beginning is my end. In my end is my beginning."
Thomas Sterns
Skirmisher
posted 04-27-11 07:09 PM EDT (US)     1902 / 2691       
Shrink
on the trender train
posted 04-27-11 07:36 PM EDT (US)     1903 / 2691       
this reminds me of when imperiallobster first showed up posting that sort of thing and people told me off for not being friendly enough
he's kinda funny in a way

for my course (international development) sociology and anthropology make up quite a big chunk of it but i don't think its the type you would respect very much at all mete

Von Mackensens Hat
Skirmisher
(id: DrNick)
posted 04-27-11 11:06 PM EDT (US)     1904 / 2691       
I used to think anarchy was like people burning buildings and stealing stereos and stuff. Now I realize that anarchy is actually people with resources lording over people without them.
tell me more misinformations. theyre my favourite.
Government gives us accountability (let me rephrase that to add a should). That's the idea behind a social contract and democracy (er republic, w/e). We (as a people) all have input into the government in the form of elections and voting.
social contract. social contract. social contract. social contract. social. id agree with you, kind of, if we werent a class-based blob trying to make 300 million people happy.




also, IS THE JUNGLE THE ONLY BOOK YOU'VE READ. IM SO CONFUSED BECAUSE UPTON SINCLAIR WASN'T EVEN AN ANARCHIST AND IVE NEVER HEARD HIM EVER IDENTIFIED AS SUCH. im just baffled. i figure caps brings the poiint. not yelling at you though. i think your swell. i just think youre too indoctrinated.
First off you know I've read more than The Jungle. Pr sure Upton Sinclair was a socialist. Or at least, more of a socialist than the US was at the time. He def had beef against laissez-faire government and with good reason.

How is removing oversignt from capitalism by destroying the government going to result in anything but a Randian utopia? Please, enlighten me.

You may be misreading my posts. Of course we need to change a lot and we're currently heading in the wrong direction. Stripping government of oversight is a step toward Anarchy though.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anarcho-capitalism

:shrug:

Dr Nick
I never forget a face, but in your case I'll be glad to make an exception.

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Von Mackensens Hat
Skirmisher
(id: DrNick)
posted 04-27-11 11:16 PM EDT (US)     1905 / 2691       
And I don't want to sound like I'm dismissing you. I know you read a lot and talk to a lot of people so I'm always willing to assume the role of a student. When I say "enlighten me" it's a little glib but I mean it. I want to know where you're coming from.

Hopefully it isn't Rage Against the Machine because it's just so... naive.

I mean, without oversight how do I know if the food I get is safe to eat? How do I ensure that I can live a comfortable life and earn a living wage? How can I ensure social justice?

I mean, f***, can you imagine what the south would be like with no government? HOLY SHIT. There's be a black man from every tree!

Dr Nick
I never forget a face, but in your case I'll be glad to make an exception.
Meteora
Skirmisher
posted 04-29-11 02:38 AM EDT (US)     1906 / 2691       
for my course (international development) sociology and anthropology make up quite a big chunk of it but i don't think its the type you would respect very much at all mete


i took an anthropology class on globalization but it was with the one professor i hated so i learned absolutely nothing. it's one of those classes where there's a general topic (globalization in this case) and the individual professor can focus on whatever sub-topic he feels like. this guy used it to focus on something he called "the crisis of identity" though he never actually defined what that actually meant. mostly we just watched documentaries about barbies and electric cars and stuff. he tried turn the class into a seminar where we'd talk and debate about subjects in the class, but since none of us had any idea what the class was about we naturally had no opposing opinions on the so-called subject matter, so the result was we'd all sit around in a circle (don't even get me started on that travesty) and say some banal things that no one disagreed with. one time in december he went around asking us all what we wanted for christmas, then afterwards told everyone how he thought gift giving traditions are really stupid and our society is horrible because of it. you know, just in case we didn't know that he was better than all of us.

but anyway the worst thing is that every other semester the class is taught by the cultural anthro professor i really like, and when he teaches the class it's about international development and stuff. he gave a guest lecture about it in one of my other classes and it was really interesting, but pretty shallow of course because it was just one lecture obviously. i just had bad luck with that i guess.

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Von Mackensens Hat
Skirmisher
(id: DrNick)
posted 04-30-11 12:00 PM EDT (US)     1907 / 2691       
one time in december he went around asking us all what we wanted for christmas, then afterwards told everyone how he thought gift giving traditions are really stupid and our society is horrible because of it.
If I were a tenured professor I'd probably troll my students too.

Also LOL @ the barbaric practice of gift giving.

Dr Nick
I never forget a face, but in your case I'll be glad to make an exception.

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Thomas Sterns
Skirmisher
posted 04-30-11 12:32 PM EDT (US)     1908 / 2691       
First off you know I've read more than The Jungle. Pr sure Upton Sinclair was a socialist. Or at least, more of a socialist than the US was at the time. He def had beef against laissez-faire government and with good reason.

How is removing oversignt from capitalism by destroying the government going to result in anything but a Randian utopia? Please, enlighten me.

You may be misreading my posts. Of course we need to change a lot and we're currently heading in the wrong direction. Stripping government of oversight is a step toward Anarchy though.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anarcho-capitalism

:shrug:
Because without the government propping it up capitalism, and its hierarchy wouldn't exist. Ayn Rand is dumb dyke that has little understanding of people, or economics. The idea of 'anarcho-capitalism' as actually working as described in that article is silly. With the absence of the state the people are most likely going to form something akin to an anarcho-syndicist, or anarcho-communist society which benefits everyone in the community rather than the anarcho-capitalism which leaves the hierarchy of the state, but eliminates the protective measures. If it were up to the workers in a community, and they are providing for the people in a community, and their families why would they choose to have deplorable work conditions? To produce things in grotesque matters?
I mean, without oversight how do I know if the food I get is safe to eat? How do I ensure that I can live a comfortable life and earn a living wage? How can I ensure social justice?
With the breaking down of nation-states, and formation of smaller enclaves of people akin to kibbutz the need for oversight is unnecessary. If people realize that people are greater than profit then there isn't any reason to fear those things as much as we do now. This may seem like an absurd concept because since the pharoah ruled in the land of the nile there was a hunger for profit, but that was derived from the hierarchy. If we look even further back at the essence of man in societies like the !Kung, the Sami, and the Dakota we see a different relationship between the people, and the earth. Just because we've developed all this modern thinking, modern 'stuff,' and no longer need to worry about food, shelter, and water for the most part doesn't mean that we can't incorporate those communal lifestyles into ours.
I mean, f***, can you imagine what the south would be like with no government? HOLY SHIT. There's be a black man from every tree!
Yeah, I'm aware. I'd hope that in smaller based communities racist notions could be dispelled because of their illogicality, and the recognition of the beauty of all mankind.

"In my beginning is my end. In my end is my beginning."
Thomas Sterns
Skirmisher
posted 04-30-11 03:18 PM EDT (US)     1909 / 2691       
http://www.barefooters.org/health-dept/MN2002.pdf

im sick of being discriminated for my lack of 'necessary' footwear. i will now be carrying this in my wallet at all times.



also, did you know selling drugs are a good way to make a quick buck? just food for thought.

"In my beginning is my end. In my end is my beginning."
General_II
Skirmisher
posted 04-30-11 04:20 PM EDT (US)     1910 / 2691       
I mean, f***, can you imagine what the south would be like with no government? HOLY SHIT. There's be a black man from every tree!
freaking rednecks, everywhere, everyone

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Shrink
on the trender train
posted 05-02-11 08:27 PM EDT (US)     1911 / 2691       
I mean, without oversight how do I know if the food I get is safe to eat? How do I ensure that I can live a comfortable life and earn a living wage? How can I ensure social justice?

I mean, f***, can you imagine what the south would be like with no government? HOLY SHIT. There's be a black man from every tree!
There are stateless societies without governments existing today which work quite well in that they have food safe to eat etc but they're usually relatively small nonadvanced communities (so a comfortable life probably doesn't apply, nor does earning a 'living wage'), and even they have significant social structure and authorities who enforce custom and tradition (be they religious leaders or family heads or elders or whatevers) so
actually i don't know where i was going with this sentence bye

Von Mackensens Hat
Skirmisher
(id: DrNick)
posted 05-02-11 11:01 PM EDT (US)     1912 / 2691       
Well, 'living wage' is clearly a cultural thing but the idea crosses boundaries.

Also, a lack of a formalized government doesn't mean a lack of any government as you sort of proved with your second statement. If there are people who are enforcing rules I would argue that they are the government.

Dr Nick
I never forget a face, but in your case I'll be glad to make an exception.
Maffia
AoE3H Seraph
(id: fred_ernie)
posted 05-03-11 08:35 AM EDT (US)     1913 / 2691       
Random change of topic.

Can anyone with experience of it comment on the effectiveness of the AV system in Australia or any other country that uses AV?

This month I have mostly been playing Dishonored Death of the Outsider and Darkest Dungeon
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morgoth93
Skirmisher
posted 05-04-11 01:32 PM EDT (US)     1914 / 2691       
Sawyer,you need to find a new avatar.Sorry.

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One day as I sat musing,alone and melancholy without a friend,there came a voice out of gloom saying'Cheer Up,things might be worse.'And sure enough,things got worse.
Meteora
Skirmisher
posted 05-04-11 01:39 PM EDT (US)     1915 / 2691       
i was going to write a post about the state vs anarchy debate but i've been too lazy. i still want to chime in though so maybe i'll do it later.

but anyway if anyone has access to this article through their university or something and they want to email it to me or something that would be sweet:

http://www.pnas.org/content/early/2011/04/27/1104627108

it's not anything important though i just wrote a paper about boisei for one of my classes a few years and this would have changed pretty much everything i wrote about its diet i think, so i'm just curious to see what exactly they're saying

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CrazyLunatic
Veteran Musketeer
posted 05-04-11 02:41 PM EDT (US)     1916 / 2691       
Sawyer,you need to find a new avatar.Sorry.
hai morgy!

btw don't think sawyer is around here anymore

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Thomas Sterns
Skirmisher
posted 05-04-11 04:20 PM EDT (US)     1917 / 2691       
Mete, sent the article to your listed email.




Also, I lost my phone at the student government banquet last night which was at the president's mansion. I'm v. annoyed since I remember where I pulled it out which was shortly before I left, but the groundskeeper said he checked there this morning, and didn't see it. I wanted to use google latitude in conjunction with google voice to figure out if he missed it, or where it is, but I guess I can't which is frustrating because the technologies should be intertwined easily. I should be able to call my number from my google voice number which will send a ring to the phone which I'm pr sure isn't dead, and the ring should go through a tower which should send it to the google locating satellite. Blurgh. It was such a good idea, but alas.

"In my beginning is my end. In my end is my beginning."
As_Saffah
Scenario Reviewer
posted 05-05-11 12:56 PM EDT (US)     1918 / 2691       
Mr. Sterns. You do not live in England. You do not hear of the crap we put up with here. I am a minority as an English person.
And the "You're not from around here GTFO" is untrue. It is simply unviable in terms of housing, economy and social peace for such a high number of immigrants to come in. Britain has turned into a powder keg that could go off at any time.
No I live in Toronto which has a majority of immigrants (see here figures from 2006) and it is projected white Europeans will be in the minority by 2015, and already are in most of the northwest suburbs.

If you live in a big city you will see a lot of immigrants.

If you want immigration to stop you have to do one of two things

a) Lower the birth rate (i.e. improve standard of living) in Everywhere Else, so they stay home; or
b) Let worker standard of living and political/economic/social stability in Britain slide to that in say, Zimbabwe or Bahrain or Iran. Then they won't want to bother coming to your country because it will be just as awful as home, but now they will be strangers in a strange land.

If you look at history this is essentially what happens. A civ's average well being and standard of living depended as much on whether its neighbours were contented as whether it had enough resources/space of its own.

Sure it is a bummer when you have to share an increasingly outdated public transit system with 500,000 new persons a year. But that's the price you pay for the decision you made to live in that city. And the decisions made by generations of people all over the world. If someone in the public works ministry in Hyderabad decides to take kickbacks and squander money meant for a light rail system, you pay because now those workers are here in Mississauga and Scarborough using your light rail system. They're not bad people. In the grand scheme of things, I'd say they are smart getting out of a corrupt city and coming to one that's arguably less-corrupt. (I don't actually know of any incidence of infrastructure corruption in Hyderabad. It's probably a very nice city, just using it as an example)

The answer isn't in closing the door. Corporations won't let you. They need workers who are competent, interpersonally and technically. They need workers who are young and energetic and ambitious and not too demanding. And who will work for much less than the average native Brit.

You have to wait until the rest of the world catches on to the idea of limiting birth rates to achieve better resource distribution per capita. Meanwhile, sharpen yor skills and get ready to compete successfully with 7.15 billion other people.

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schildpad on Elephants: ...their mansabdar unit sucks so hard it looks like a black hole
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As_Saffah
Scenario Reviewer
posted 05-05-11 01:33 PM EDT (US)     1919 / 2691       
ebwop: I do agree with you that in order to not default to option B (sink into anarchy, corruption, and extremism) Britain needs to identify and uphold a minimal standard of basic human rights. Sharia law is as much a cultural artifact of patriarchal middle Eastern tribal societies as it is a religious code. It has no place in a functioning nation state. In that regard, I'm a strong believer in "When in Rome". If you come to the West, you must expect (and accept) you will be held to the minimal standard of basic human rights.

Although that standard is based on or evokes the Ten Commandments, the Golden Rule, etc. from the holy books, it does not apply only to holy people, or to secular people. It applies to everyone. "Thou shalt not kill" is not negotiable in secular civilian society. Killing female relatives because they attract attention is still murder 1.

A few other points of basic human rights are somewhat contested. Some societies maintain the right to force girls into marriage beds at their first menses. You can argue that these girls are sometimes indifferent to the change in their status from child to wife. That their life quality may improve as they now attain the status of full adult respect in the tribal group.

A lot of evidence seems to suggest that this early loss of adolescent autonomy may produce adult women who have under-developed faculties for emotional judgment and personal self-actualization. This is incompatible with life in a modern society, wherein adult individuals are expected to develop moral, ethical, and social critical thinking skills through increased autonomy and responsibility in adolescence. This in turn prepares them to be responsible heads of household and citizens in a representative government.

Not to mention it keeps many women from reaching their full academic, financial, and personal potential. Finally there are health, social, emotional and sexual development issues with being married at a very young age. Pregnancy complication rates and birth weights are troublesome the younger the mother. Girls pushed into sexual relationships very early sometimes do not get a chance to develop a strong sexual self-identity and learn to understand what they need and what is harmful. They may become emotionally deprived because they are in a relationship based on their role as chattel, not as a partner in a voluntary, mutually trusting and intimate relationship.

We already recognize this as a secular humanist society and have laws to protect young adults until they have gained enough insight and judgment, and self knowledge, to make choices that they can live with. (Not that they always make the best choices) It is not about prudish puritanical nonsense. It is about ensuring every child has had time to develop abstract reasoning and risk-consequence assessment skills before having to decide the life of another human being.

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Bart331 balance suggestion: aztec: remove civ
Voltiguer: Ender, Sioux in 1.04 will be a top civ, no matter how many layers of Sioux goggles you put on
schildpad on Elephants: ...their mansabdar unit sucks so hard it looks like a black hole
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Jax
HG Monument
(id: Jax Omen)
posted 05-05-11 04:05 PM EDT (US)     1920 / 2691       
Also, I lost my phone at the student government banquet last night which was at the president's mansion
The hell

house won this
Shrink
on the trender train
posted 05-05-11 07:13 PM EDT (US)     1921 / 2691       
As it's the exam period when I should be studying, I bought Civilization 5 recently. it's quite a lot of fun, especially as its now patched up quite well. Just today downloaded the developer-released viking civilization with a fantastic scenario based on 1066 and the invasions of England. I like these proper scenarios where the victory conditions are unique, there are unique civilizations for use only in the scenario (in this case, anglo-saxon English with a huskarl unique unit, normans with special knights and a cool motte-and-bailey fort thing (though maybe others can build that), and 2 types of vikings)
First place my Danish vikings landed was Norwich, but I'm beginning to struggle against English counterattacks and I'm sandwiched between vikings who landed in york and normans coming from the south. I can imagine it ending in stalemate, despite having captured London, as there's little chance i'll be able to build the domesday book wonder victory condition thing...
anyway this game is cool the end

Jax
HG Monument
(id: Jax Omen)
posted 05-06-11 07:11 AM EDT (US)     1922 / 2691       
Have the patches made a massive difference? Steam says I've played it for 36 hours or something, but all of that was basically in one marathon session when it first came out and I haven't really touched it since then.

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Maffia
AoE3H Seraph
(id: fred_ernie)
posted 05-06-11 08:08 AM EDT (US)     1923 / 2691       
I haven't touched it much since it came out either, I keep meaning to play some of the scenarios but get distracted by other things.

This month I have mostly been playing Dishonored Death of the Outsider and Darkest Dungeon
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General_II
Skirmisher
posted 05-06-11 08:31 AM EDT (US)     1924 / 2691       
Multiplayer can be kinda cool, though even if you win that you lose since you spend 5+ hours on a single game.
Arkhane
Skirmisher
posted 05-06-11 05:19 PM EDT (US)     1925 / 2691       
I went to my grandpa's memorial service yesterday, was pretty moving. Because he was a Major in the Grenadier Guards they sent down a band and they played the Grenadier's March and The Last Post. Also this character popped up to make a long and slightly mad speech: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edwin_Bramall,_Baron_Bramall
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