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ub3r
Skirmisher
posted 04-07-06 05:10 PM EDT (US)         
Did ES not make a Merc version of the Grenaider on purpose?

Would they be too l33t?

Just imagine a Middle-Eastern like unit with 450 health lobing grenades for 36 ranged attack with x2 splash.

Just for fun...

Altaic Bombarder

HP:450
Ranged Attack: 36 x2 (18) Range x0.5 vs Cavalry
Hand Attack: 18
Siege Attack: 75
Speed: 4
60% Ranged Resist
3.0 ROF

11 Altaic Bombarders for 1200 gold (Russia/Ottoman/French/British/Port)


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"Let your plans be dark and as impenatrable as night, and when you move, fall like a lightning-bolt." - Sun Tzu
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EmperorPatrick
Skirmisher
posted 04-07-06 05:20 PM EDT (US)     1 / 51       
How about NO.

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ub3r
Skirmisher
posted 04-07-06 05:35 PM EDT (US)     2 / 51       
Lol you had to edit that small reply? Took alot of thought for that one huh?

Next time come up with something better duckmouth.


"Were surrounded.........this simplifies things." - Chesty Puller USMC 1950

"Let your plans be dark and as impenatrable as night, and when you move, fall like a lightning-bolt." - Sun Tzu
SQUAD_UP
Skirmisher
posted 04-07-06 05:42 PM EDT (US)     3 / 51       
How about YES, something creative, which is what aoe3 needs. It has too much of the same thing and a little variety would be nice. Dont get me wrong I LOVE this game but there could be a little more diversity among units. And a Grenaider Merc....how cool. Plus the otto could use a little help since they got JACKED with the patch.

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MisterDie
Skirmisher
posted 04-07-06 05:54 PM EDT (US)     4 / 51       
imo the siege attack is too low. should be 90 something
Toysoldier14
Skirmisher
posted 04-07-06 05:57 PM EDT (US)     5 / 51       

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Lol you had to edit that small reply? Took alot of thought for that one huh?
Next time come up with something better duckmouth.

First off, I didn't know duckmouth was an insult. Very creative, ub3r.

Antoher thing, if you want positive replies, try being nicer to the people who post in your reply. They took the time out of their day to reply to your thread, so at least give them some kindness.

Thanks,
Toy


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EmperorPatrick
Skirmisher
posted 04-07-06 06:13 PM EDT (US)     6 / 51       
I didn't edit my message, fool. Look closer.

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SLDFKnight
Skirmisher
posted 04-07-06 06:36 PM EDT (US)     7 / 51       
They should have a petard unit.
ub3r
Skirmisher
posted 04-07-06 06:38 PM EDT (US)     8 / 51       
Toysoldier wtf are you talking about?

They guys reply was cocky and unneeded, what am i supposed to do thank him for being a dickface?

Stop commenting on my attitude and contribute to the post.

And Patrick your the only person who has that on the bottom of thier message so i figured you edited it, bite me.

All im doing is sharing some ideas concerning Mercs. People talk about AgeCommunity boards being n00b, when half the people on these boards just flame and dickride every1 else.


"Were surrounded.........this simplifies things." - Chesty Puller USMC 1950

"Let your plans be dark and as impenatrable as night, and when you move, fall like a lightning-bolt." - Sun Tzu
EmperorPatrick
Skirmisher
posted 04-07-06 06:55 PM EDT (US)     9 / 51       
Ub3r, I find it rather ironic that you tell me to "contribute to the thread" and start attacking me, calling me a "dickface", in the same post. If you want people to stay on topic and contribute to the thread and discuss the content of the title post, don't distract them by flaming other forummers and calling people "dickfaces". You said my posts were "cocky and unneeded", but in yours, you only insult people.

Concerning the original idea, I think the grenadier mercenaries are unbalanced and unnecessary.


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TAD: Master Sergeant (~30 Games Played)

[This message has been edited by EmperorPatrick (edited 04-07-2006 @ 06:59 PM).]

StonewallJ
Seraph Emeritus
(id: Conquistador34)
posted 04-07-06 07:03 PM EDT (US)     10 / 51       
Well, ES said in a recent interview that there will be new mercs in the xpack, this could possibly be one of them.

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Stop commenting on my attitude and contribute to the post.


Aye, and you should contribute to other's posts by reading them. Unlike one certain forumer who you choose to ignore each of his posts.

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when half the people on these boards just flame and dickride every1 else.


And you are not flaming? You get caught flaming in quite a lot of threads. Final warning. Next time such flaming occurs it'll be official.

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Angel Walker
Skirmisher
(id: Just a player)
posted 04-07-06 07:09 PM EDT (US)     11 / 51       
11 of those dudes or 11 Highlanders???

Too OP IMO...

But the game doesn't need those... They already have Landskdlosistheces, Swiss Pikes, Ronins...

Unless you make them available in Colonial Age... Colonial fighting then! UHA!


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[This message has been edited by Just a player (edited 04-07-2006 @ 07:10 PM).]

ub3r
Skirmisher
posted 04-07-06 07:20 PM EDT (US)     12 / 51       
Final warning of what Stonewall?

I said the guy was acting like a dickface...which he was, all i did is make a post about somehting and he says HOW ABOUT NO.

I mean cmon.. in other threads people tell me to stop smoking crack, and calling me names, swearing, telling me to kill myself, and you never say anything to them, you always put it on me.

I just made a topic and people always start w me first so ima defend myself, you wanna ban me fine, but just remember these people do the same thing.

As far as Mist goes, i can ignore someone who always harrasses me and just says stuff that never makes sense, i think i have that right, weather if i announce it or not. I could have been ignoring his post for the past 2 months but never said anything, what does it matter?

All i have ever done is make posts about my opinions, or thoughts about civs or units, people always have a negative reply so ima come back twice as negative.

There are people on this board who i get along w fine, becuz even if they tell me im wrong they do it in a constructive way, i never flame any1 unless they act cocky or try to get at me.

EDIT: You think they would be OP Just a player? Maybe you should just get 9 for 1200 gold.


"Were surrounded.........this simplifies things." - Chesty Puller USMC 1950

"Let your plans be dark and as impenatrable as night, and when you move, fall like a lightning-bolt." - Sun Tzu

[This message has been edited by ub3r (edited 04-07-2006 @ 07:22 PM).]

Adam42
Skirmisher
posted 04-07-06 07:21 PM EDT (US)     13 / 51       
I think falconet or other artillery mercs would be quite cool, too. You could get like a couple of them for 1200 gold and they would be very powerful. Merc 'naders is a good idea, I think they are underused except for in rushes. The 0.5x against cavalry and no x2 against infantry kills them.
N_E_Patriots
Skirmisher
posted 04-07-06 08:05 PM EDT (US)     14 / 51       
What happened to the Jedi mercs that i suggested?

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Angel Walker
Skirmisher
(id: Just a player)
posted 04-07-06 08:10 PM EDT (US)     15 / 51       
What about... Settler Mercs? Maybe Llama mercs and Minutmen Mercs!

No, really hope ES will add more mercs in the X-pack... they're so damn OP, but cool !!!


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[This message has been edited by Just a player (edited 04-07-2006 @ 08:11 PM).]

ub3r
Skirmisher
posted 04-07-06 08:16 PM EDT (US)     16 / 51       
Lancer merc?

30 hand damage x5 vs infantry lol.

But on a serious note i like the idea of Grenaider Merc.

I mean why not they have cav archer merc.


"Were surrounded.........this simplifies things." - Chesty Puller USMC 1950

"Let your plans be dark and as impenatrable as night, and when you move, fall like a lightning-bolt." - Sun Tzu
StonewallJ
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(id: Conquistador34)
posted 04-07-06 08:36 PM EDT (US)     17 / 51       

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No, really hope ES will add more mercs in the X-pack...


Wally confirmed there will be new mercs in the xpack in an interview.

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ub3r
Skirmisher
posted 04-07-06 08:53 PM EDT (US)     18 / 51       
I really cant wait to see the Native Mercs. They will probably be awesome.

I would like to see a couple more gunpowder mercs, maybe a Merc ABUSE GUN =D

Anyways i really think there will be a Grenaider type merc in the xpack.


"Were surrounded.........this simplifies things." - Chesty Puller USMC 1950

"Let your plans be dark and as impenatrable as night, and when you move, fall like a lightning-bolt." - Sun Tzu
Neptune777
Skirmisher
posted 04-07-06 09:31 PM EDT (US)     19 / 51       
Yah a grenadier merc would be nice

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Toysoldier14
Skirmisher
posted 04-07-06 11:05 PM EDT (US)     20 / 51       
Ub3r,

I wasn't trying to fight over anything. All I am saying is that in this thread, and the Russian thread, you seem to insult people, even if they are contributing to your original idea.

I have nothing to say about grenadier mercenarys, I just hate it when people fight over the internet about opinions.

Like they say "Opinions are like ***holes, everyone has one and everyone else's smells but yours."

So, just try to ask them why they say NO and get their opinion.

P.S EmperorPatrick, that was very, very cleaver :P

Thanks,
Toy


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[This message has been edited by Toysoldier14 (edited 04-07-2006 @ 11:06 PM).]

KingSteve3721
Skirmisher
posted 04-07-06 11:29 PM EDT (US)     21 / 51       
guys, ub3r just has a VERY bad habit of:
-not being very friendly
-all his topics turn into flame wars
-he disagrees with everything
-cant even agree with a mod thats going to ban him
-gets immature so much he doesnt read the peoples posts that disagree with him. (that means EVERYONE)
-doesnt know how to post something without insulting someone

so, stop feeding the troll, LEAVE HIM ALONE.
i bet there will be some sort of a merc that throws bombs at buildings.

Quinarvy
Skirmisher
posted 04-08-06 00:26 AM EDT (US)     22 / 51       
@ ub3r

A Merc Abus? *shiver* the death that it would rain down upon all the unsuspecting people...It would probably end up being a one-man army.

And I like the Grenadier Merc idea.

juvmonkey
Skirmisher
posted 04-08-06 00:27 AM EDT (US)     23 / 51       
not it off guys, if you want to keep flaming ask for a Flame Forum. On another note nadier merc would be cool, id like to see settler merc which can fight ralatively good (equal to a veteran musketeer) but still be able to build and gather. If the could gather at CdB speed there would be a a card
Outlaw's Militia
1200 coin
Get a shipment of 8 Outlaw Militia...

Speed: 4.5
HP: 300
Attack: 26 Ranged with 14 Range (x2 to pets, 0.5 to settlers)
Seige: 22
Hand Attack: 18 (x2 to pets, 0.5 to settlers)

[This message has been edited by juvmonkey (edited 04-08-2006 @ 00:32 AM).]

Gambler_Justice
Skirmisher
posted 04-08-06 03:55 AM EDT (US)     24 / 51       
Don't French already get a Grenadier merc?
Well not exactly a mercenary, but with the advanced church tech card you can get Young Guard, Middle Guard and Old Guard grenadiers for the church for some amount of food, what I know their better than normal ones.

I actually once fought a French FFer that used this, it was good :P

Dieneces
Skirmisher
posted 04-08-06 04:56 AM EDT (US)     25 / 51       
Give them a siege similar to the Ronin, then they'll be closer to merc-worthy. Right now they seem like lesser Landsknechts.
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