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Jumbalaya
Skirmisher
posted 06-22-06 08:29 PM EDT (US)         
Sending a card does not = a bonus.. Howbout give them a boost to their natives WITHOUT sending the damn card!! Same goes for dutch and bank cards -_-

lol im jumby
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LO12DS_Mist
Skirmisher
posted 06-29-06 03:51 PM EDT (US)     126 / 176       

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40 vil colonial. It was in the strat section a while back. On the front page I think too. Doesn't happen all the time but that's what it can get up to.

Right, we're talking about actually being able to USE the vils.

Being in colonial with 40 vils is not going to help you much, you'd get your ass kicked.

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I'm sure other civs would be pissed if they got a free uhlan or 2 with their shipments.

"What am I gonna do with this POS?! I should delete it. Takin' up pop space..."

The econ bonus is much better than what the uhlans give you.

2 or 3 uhlans are barely usable, you need to stock them up, or go on suicide kamikaze raids which always fail and do barely anything. Unless you're playing a noob.

Or a neeb, in raaman's case.

And who said Germans had to be pissed? I'm just saying the bonus isn't as great as it seems. A couple uhlans isn't going to give you a major advantage, be serious. You need to send at least 5-6 shipments for it to be useful, AND thats assuming you keep all your uhlans alive. By the time you get 5-6 shipments, it'll be at least 10 minutes into the game.

Also, uhlans aren't providing you any bonus by sitting there waiting to accumulate.


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Real2002
Skirmisher
posted 06-29-06 04:07 PM EDT (US)     127 / 176       

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Right, we're talking about actually being able to USE the vils.

Being in colonial with 40 vils is not going to help you much, you'd get your ass kicked.

If I did it, yeah, probably. But I've seen it done successfully, so it's not bs. It was presented as a hypothetical anyway and you took it literally every game it's gonna happen, which it rarely will.

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A couple uhlans isn't going to give you a major advantage, be serious.

Well, you contested that 20 vils is BS, but a couple isn't. If you can't kill a couple forward vils with a few uhlans, then ok...

If you kill those couple extra vils you've partly negated the other persons eco bonus...


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LO12DS_Mist
Skirmisher
posted 06-29-06 04:13 PM EDT (US)     128 / 176       

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If I did it, yeah, probably. But I've seen it done successfully, so it's not bs. It was presented as a hypothetical anyway and you took it literally every game it's gonna happen, which it rarely will.

The point is, most people will not be able to make 20 houses @ 7 minutes and still manage to use that advantage to win.

Stophon4 is the only person I know can use the strategy to win consistently (he made it lol) and so its not really fair to use it as an example.

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Well, you contested that 20 vils is BS, but a couple isn't.

20 vils @ 7 mins is b/s, unless you're Stophon.

I don't care whether you've seen it in action, the point is that VERY few players actually use this. They make fewer houses than that at that time, much fewer.

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If you can't kill a couple forward vils with a few uhlans, then ok...

If the opponent lets you kill his forward vils, thats a mistake on his part. The bonus has nothing to do with it.

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If you kill those couple extra vils you've partly negated the other persons eco bonus...

Raiding? Raiding with 2 uhlans is a good way to lose 2 uhlans. Past 1900 rate, uhlans from shipments simply don't work until you have at least 10 or more of them, and that takes until about 9-10 minutes. 2 uhlans are quite easy to stop in their tracks, no decent 1900+ player would let them kill even ONE vil. Most would garrison.

Of course, there are rare cases in which you'll catch a vil, but thats simply chance. You can't rely on it too well, its not a significant boost.

EDIT: Being in col. at 7 minutes with 40 vils isn't going to do much, because those 40 vils can't really do much with their res. The opponent will actually be making powerful age 3 units and boosting their economy with extra TCs, etc. while you're in col. trying to get to fort with 40 vils and very few defenses/military. (some walls and outposts and some longbows lolll)


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Real2002
Skirmisher
posted 06-29-06 04:21 PM EDT (US)     129 / 176       

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I don't care whether you've seen it in action, the point is that VERY few players actually use this. They make fewer houses than that at that time, much fewer.

No, I know. What I'm saying that getting a 3 or 4 vils isn't out of the question, not all 20 asap.

But even if you don't go crazy with your uhlans and you keep them moving on the outskirts of your enemy's base, you're gonna find a stray villager if he tries to move one out without an escort. Using them to help contain your enemy isn't viable past 1900? I'm not saying that it should be your only force, but it certainly doesn't hurt to have them along with other units, esp when your opponent has to actually pay for cav counters or cav of their own if they wanted to use it.


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Adam42
Skirmisher
posted 06-29-06 04:43 PM EDT (US)     130 / 176       

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2 uhlans are quite easy to stop in their tracks, no decent 1900+ player would let them kill even ONE vil. Most would garrison.

Actually 2 uhlans usually kill 1 vill unless they're really really close to the TC. And besides, he made you garrison for 20 seconds or so, for free. If you took 10 vills off for 30 seconds, that's quite a lot of food that you've lost.
brandnizzle
Skirmisher
posted 06-29-06 04:55 PM EDT (US)     131 / 176       
Mist, settle, you do thsi in every thread.

the greta thign about uhlans are that they cost you vills, VS, and make you playd efense when the game ahs abrely started.

you have to put up an extra outpost here, or wall this, or eat these berries cause there are uhlans waiting rihg t otuside your town, and yes vills can kill uhlans, but those uhlans were free, the vills you lose fighting them werent and the VS you lose fighting them wasnt free.

as it is, france really has nothing special.

they and spain are liek the prototype civs, before they did anything to them. at leats they gave spain faster shipments.

even cuirs are part of the ottos spahi.

and CdB's are like settler wagons, (ranegd resistance, better vills, give you mroe of a vill pop(onyl ONE more for france)

im nto saying spahi are better or settler wagons are better, im jstu saying france isnt very orginal,actually, its THE ORIGINAL. like pink gum.

LO12DS_Mist
Skirmisher
posted 06-29-06 05:40 PM EDT (US)     132 / 176       

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But even if you don't go crazy with your uhlans and you keep them moving on the outskirts of your enemy's base, you're gonna find a stray villager if he tries to move one out without an escort. Using them to help contain your enemy isn't viable past 1900?

You get caught up in the micro sometimes.

I've found that Germans get distracted easily when they try to raid with uhlans (it was funny once, I sent in 5 spahi to his base while his uhlans tried raiding me. I had the spahi on control group so I could control both my vils and spahi at same time, I killed his uhlans and managed to catch 3-4 of his vils off guard, he obviously didn't notice.)

He was trying so hard to make his uhlans of use, he wasn't paying enough attention to his base.

Uhlans actually may pose a problem to you, because you try to use them to raid. They're not effective raiders, so you end up losing your bonus.

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Mist, settle, you do thsi in every thread.

Do what, exactly?

Try to prove someone wrong?

Why, is that a sin?

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the greta thign about uhlans are that they cost you vills, VS, and make you playd efense when the game ahs abrely started.

All you do is move your vils for 2 seconds. It might actually cause HIM to mess up, because he may not be paying attention to idles.

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but those uhlans were free,

They may have cost you pop space. Sometimes 2 uhlans can force you to make a new house or suicide the uhlans.

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as it is, france really has nothing special.

Cuirs aren't special?

Coureurs aren't special?

I played a game against Raaman a couple days ago, I tried killing his coureurs with 10 skirms...The skirms fire 3 shots each, and his coureur still has half damage (I'm thinking, pioneers? Great coat?)

Once it goes down to quarter damage, he garrisons that exact coureur and sends it, I think, to the other side of the TC to safely gather there.

I fire on a second coureur, 10 of them whirl around and kill one of my skirms. WTF. ONE SHOT from all of them, and my skirm is dead. I got out of there before I lost any more skirms, and didn't bother using skirms on coureurs lol...

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even cuirs are part of the ottos spahi.

Whats that supposed to mean?

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and CdB's are like settler wagons, (ranegd resistance, better vills, give you mroe of a vill pop(onyl ONE more for france)

There's no bonus for settler wagons except that it takes longer to kill.

However, settler wagons sometimes pose a disadvantage to Germans because moving a settler wagon=taking 2 vils of a resource. Any other civ, moving a settler=moving a settler.

Coureurs, however, have a bonus atop their cost, so they're a bonus, not a neutrality.

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im nto saying spahi are better or settler wagons are better, im jstu saying france isnt very orginal,actually, its THE ORIGINAL. like pink gum.

So does that mean ports aren't original? They have cassadores, and cassadores are simply skirms, right?

Does that mean Brits aren't original? All they have is longbows, longbows are simply strong crossbows, right?

Cuirs are the same as these units. Spahi may also share splash damage, but cuirs are still the only cav unit besides spahi to posess splash in regular attack.

You could say ruyters are unoriginal, too. Ruyters are exactly like dragoons, right? Ranged resistance, mounted, counter cav, wields pistols.

Is anyone complaining about Dutch units not being original?

No.

Cuirassier is fine. Its original. Its a bonus. Its the strongest creatable melee cavalry unit. Period.

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Actually 2 uhlans usually kill 1 vill unless they're really really close to the TC. And besides, he made you garrison for 20 seconds or so, for free. If you took 10 vills off for 30 seconds, that's quite a lot of food that you've lost.

I haven't lost a vil to a German free uhlan raider in a while.

Also, it doesn't matter if I lose anything. It depends on the degree of the bonus.

People are saying free uhlans are better than faster gathering vils. IMO, this is not true, because I'd rather have stronger, faster gathering vils than free uhlans.

And no, you can NOT compare settler wagons to coureurs because settler wagons cost more than double the cost of a regular settler, but only perform as well as double a settler.

Free uhlans and faster gathering vils(coureurs) are actually EQUAL bonusses. Neither is better, neither is worse.

Lets say a French player were playing against a German opponent. (hypothetical, this involves use of BOTH bonuses.)

At 7 minutes, the French player, lets say has 20 coureurs, or 25 normal settlers. (probably not true, but lets just use this figure).

The German is behind by approx. 5%, his economy is runnng on 24 regular settlers.

In order to nullify the 5% bonus and make it even, the German player has to kill 1 coureur. Is it possible? Probably. Other factors would probably make this harder (coureurs being harder to kill, the uhlans might not succeed.)

Against other players, the German bonus is probably a bit better. BUT, its still not that much better than the coureur bonus.

SO, in conclusion, the uhlan bonus is pretty close to equal to the coureur bonus in terms of economics.

Of course, the uhlans might be the "clear" winner in terms of military, but the coureurs gather extra res, so they supplement more troops.


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brandnizzle
Skirmisher
posted 06-29-06 05:49 PM EDT (US)     133 / 176       
its not even about if the french "bonus" is a good as the others.

its just not a bonus.

wheres their betetr use of natives? no where.

UU's are not bonuses.

courers are their bonus for lack of a bonus.

i never compaliend french untis werent original, and as for your com aprison tot he dutch, at leats the dutch have banks, its something different. the french have super vills. wow. thats like instead of the dragoon having a six shooter, he now has a 9mm, wow, so fun and different.

cdb's are great, sure, but its not a greta idea. it doesnt change gameplay as much as the othe bonuses. i cant trutle with 2 tc's in age 2, i cant hosue boom, all i can do is uh, gather with a less raidable gatehring force, thrilling.

LO12DS_Mist
Skirmisher
posted 06-29-06 06:18 PM EDT (US)     134 / 176       

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i never compaliend french untis werent original, and as for your com aprison tot he dutch, at leats the dutch have banks, its something different. the french have super vills. wow. thats like instead of the dragoon having a six shooter, he now has a 9mm, wow, so fun and different.

cdb's are great, sure, but its not a greta idea. it doesnt change gameplay as much as the othe bonuses. i cant trutle with 2 tc's in age 2, i cant hosue boom, all i can do is uh, gather with a less raidable gatehring force, thrilling.

No other civ gets a vil that can actually fight back.

Settlers suck at fighting back, they do crap damage even with upgrades, and their HP is low even with greatcoat/pioneers.

Coureurs, on the other hand, slaughter raiding forces.

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wheres their betetr use of natives? no where.

Many civ bonusses are through cards.

French get wilderness warfare (great card IMO) and a couple other native cards I can't remember off the top of my head.

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UU's are not bonuses.

Yes they are. Strelets are a bonus, abus are a bonus, lancers are a bonus, rods are a bonus, longbows are a HUGE bonus.

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i never compaliend french untis werent original, and as for your com aprison tot he dutch, at leats the dutch have banks, its something different. the french have super vills. wow. thats like instead of the dragoon having a six shooter, he now has a 9mm, wow, so fun and different.

Why are you saying cuirs are like spahi then? Cuirs are actually nothing like spahi except for the splash damage. Cuirs are not merc-like cavalry, cuirs don't auto-upgrade through all the ages, cuirs are not limited.

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cdb's are great, sure, but its not a greta idea. it doesnt change gameplay as much as the othe bonuses. i cant trutle with 2 tc's in age 2, i cant hosue boom, all i can do is uh, gather with a less raidable gatehring force, thrilling.

Yes indeed, it changes the gameplay.

Again, I refer to the game between me and Raaman the other day. His coureurs were virtually unraidable, they would take upwards of 30 shots from skirms and not die, and then turn around and kill my skirms in one volley.

Damn straight.


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OpenAmp
Banned
posted 06-29-06 08:02 PM EDT (US)     135 / 176       

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A couple uhlans isn't going to give you a major advantage, be serious. You need to send at least 5-6 shipments for it to be useful, AND thats assuming you keep all your uhlans alive. By the time you get 5-6 shipments, it'll be at least 10 minutes into the game.

hold on there, cowboy.

if 2 are sent in colonial and 3 in fortress, that's 13 uhlans; 1,950 res. so when you both clash at that 10 minute mark, the german will have a 2k resource advantage in his army for no cost at all. that's a pretty damn big bonus if you ask me.

plus, don't forget that the free uhlan bonus transformes into extra mercs, essentially giving the german a 200-300 res deal on his merc shipments.

and on a smaller note, the handful of uhlans in age 2 can hunt for treasures. 240 wood, anyone?

LO12DS_Mist
Skirmisher
posted 06-29-06 08:33 PM EDT (US)     136 / 176       

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if 2 are sent in colonial and 3 in fortress, that's 13 uhlans; 1,950 res. so when you both clash at that 10 minute mark, the german will have a 2k resource advantage in his army for no cost at all. that's a pretty damn big bonus if you ask me.

I don't like comparing uhlans cost-wise, because their cost is way inflated for what they do.

Uhlans are very fragile, in reality they are worth half of what they cost. Of course, this is how its meant to be, if you were able to create cheaper uhlans the free uhlans would make uhlans incredibly easy to mass, even more so than they are now.

In reality, if you bought some other unit for 2k res, the uhlan would be beaten down in cost-effectiveness. So its not really a 2k res advantage.

However, you are right in the principle. But, 13 uhlans at 10 minutes is still rather weak, IMO.

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plus, don't forget that the free uhlan bonus transformes into extra mercs, essentially giving the german a 200-300 res deal on his merc shipments.

Thats true. But this isn't a lasting advantage, like the French bonus. Its not a game-altering bonus either, other civ's boosted econs can make up for this.

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and on a smaller note, the handful of uhlans in age 2 can hunt for treasures. 240 wood, anyone?

Thats right, you're right on that. I forgot about that

But, again, rarely is it a lasting effect. Treasures can only get you so far, and usually treasures are best claimed in age 1. Of course, since its free, why not

That makes me wonder, why don't more Germans do that?


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exe163
Skirmisher
posted 06-29-06 08:45 PM EDT (US)     137 / 176       
Mist u probably not a french civ player:

CbD unraid able? yes if u waste card which can gain u at least 700 res or 4 more of them (pioneer). O yea they can fight back alrite, I'm going to bring them to your base and burn ur tc. LMAO! anyone use them to fignt only when they r versing otto abus gun or nader. and ur example is 1 of the worse when u use skrim to count how many shots require to kill 1 upgraded CdB(1 card and 200 food market upgard) skirm depends on the multiplier, and Cdb got range resis. thats lyk saying how many strelets needed to take down 1 settler upgarded (pioneer and market will make them close to CdB's hp, and remember they also get more benefit from that card, i remember its 6x% v 4x%) and that warfare card its a semi native upgarde card, 10% to CdB is noting useful if anyone that is really trying to make them unraid able or use them to fight (which i dont think no body will unless aganst otto or useing low lv hc)

and using them to fight raiders (UHLANS, 2 lets say) is one of worse thing u can do, u will end up loosing 1 or 2 if u set them attacking the raiders without retreating, worse will happen if 3 hussar or 5 uhlan as a total raiding shipment. a person play me when i'm new to german his new to french both low hc, i send my uhlans to raid (2, from 700 gold card) and he show a perfect example of a person expect to CdBs to fight lyk the menu saids. in frong of the tc, he us at least half of the vill to attack me (fully upgrade)it takes them 3 shot to kill one and they started attacking the second one 1 vill is dead. losts-

French 1 card and 2 market upgrade and 1 vill( which is not a lost if they just hide in the tc ) and 8 vill of fighting time
german 2 FREE uhlan while FFing

CdB is not really a bonus IMO, yes they walks lyk a musketeer and kill 30 hp animal with 2 shot, they still serve as a normal vill in regular game. Pioneer card in not in deck in most games for all french players ( not counting low HC and rooks ) and this bonus is too less compare to other civ ( not a bonus IMO) german uhlan is not only a raider, u can send them to sout + scard opponent vill away, or put them near enemy second closest gold mine to take map control

German - FF civ
Port - Turtle boom, FF/FI civ
British - Boom civ, map control civ
Otto - gay rush civ
Russain rush civ
Spanish - rush, FF civ
French -..... not a rush civ.... dont get much boom .... maybe... turtle without boom civ

and how is spanish prototpye(just let you know this is not includ the HC which i bet the make it after the basic game root***spanish before fast shipment), got unit of all kind
stable:
raiding
anti inf
anti cav
Rax:
2nd age anti inf
anti cav, siege
all in one anti cav
speed anti range cav
anti inf

halb is a pike with more hand attack less multiplier, same as pike's role better meat sheid but not require

not other civ have such a fulll units of choice, french is closest to it
anti inf cav change to moster cav
and lack of anti range cav. i dont know y lancer and rod arent in all the civs. they r the basic units

call me a noob if u dont lyk my point of view, well it told me 90 french lv to find out other civs are a lot better in bonus than french and keep the postes more peaceful - take about the topic not poster

Ender_Ward
Skirmisher
posted 06-29-06 09:06 PM EDT (US)     138 / 176       

Quoted from exe163:


Stuff ...

Paragraphs are your friend. And do try to use the actual English language. Not your bastardised version.

Regarding CdBs and raiding:

CdBs are not unraidable, but they are resistant to raids. People conviniently forget that they are faster than standard villagers, and thus get away to safety easier. They also benefit more from the Market Great Coat upgrade, having higher base hitpoints. One doesn't need to send Pioneers at all, to enjoy the raid resistant CdB bonus.

And I just couldn't force myself to read the rest of your post ...



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Jumbalaya
Skirmisher
posted 06-29-06 09:22 PM EDT (US)     139 / 176       
They are killed at around the same amount of time as a normal villagers from cavalry

lol im jumby
Ossian
Skirmisher
posted 06-29-06 09:27 PM EDT (US)     140 / 176       
I do agree that the line about france being more "flexable" is a joke because spain has it better.

And sadly it took me 83 lvls to find out other civs were much much better, mostly when I played as germany and found out how much better they were next to france.


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Syncope
Skirmisher
posted 06-29-06 09:28 PM EDT (US)     141 / 176       
I have used cdb's to fight... It wasn't rated but it did win me the game. 486 hitpoints does pretty well
agape3
Skirmisher
posted 06-29-06 09:33 PM EDT (US)     142 / 176       
Ahem...

It is an accepted English rule that sentences cannot begin with the word "and," as this prevents the sentence from being a complete thought.

Combine your second and third sentences.

Bastardized

Conveniently

Shoud "Market" really be capitalized? I don't think that it is a proper noun in this case.

Get rid of that comma in:
"One doesn't need to send Pioneers at all, to enjoy the raid resistant CdB bonus."

Do try to use the actual English language, not your bastardized version.

Syncope
Skirmisher
posted 06-29-06 09:43 PM EDT (US)     143 / 176       

Quoted from agape3:

It is an accepted English rule that sentences cannot begin with the word "and," as this prevents the sentence from being a complete thought.

Actually, it is acceptable to begin sentences with conjunctions(i.e. 'and', 'but', 'or'). It used to be an arbitrary rule that one should not begin sentences with said conjunctions, but now it is allowed and commonly used.

Real2002
Skirmisher
posted 06-29-06 09:51 PM EDT (US)     144 / 176       

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Actually, it is acceptable to begin sentences with conjunctions(i.e. 'and', 'but', 'or'). It used to be an arbitrary rule that one should not begin sentences with said conjunctions, but now it is allowed and commonly used.

This is true, however, it should not be used frequently. It's used more for emphasis.


Back to the topic though, cdbs are better than regular settlers side by side. But the topic isn't about whether or not that shoud be the French bonus. It's just the native bonus.

If I saw people throw a few native upgrade cards out and win with superior natives or even turn the tide of a battle after having done that, I don't think it would be so bad. But you just don't see it, and for good reason. Resource and unit shipments will almost always take their place because they have a more immediate effect. True, there is wilderness warfare which also affects cdb, and that might be the only cool native card they have, but I don't think it really constitutes a bonus, does it?


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Arithmicus
Skirmisher
posted 06-29-06 10:02 PM EDT (US)     145 / 176       
"A unique unit is not a bonus."

The French Unique Units are the Cuirassier and The Coureur de Bois.

The Coureur de Bois are mroe expensive settlers with more hitpoints.

The French BONUS is that their settlers (the Coureur de Bois) gather 25% faster.

Their other bonuses are that they start with an Indian Scout and have a (pitiful) native deck selection. I agree that the French native bonus is not really a bonus.

The French otherwise are a very flexible civ, unlike the Dutch or the Ottoman, whose bonuses are more speaheaded in one direction, and to complement that have a flexible deck, good army selection, and an economic bonus which (though it is now nerfed for early game) is useful the whole game long.

xxprogressxx
Skirmisher
posted 06-29-06 10:05 PM EDT (US)     146 / 176       

Quote:

It is an accepted English rule that sentences cannot begin with the word "and," as this prevents the sentence from being a complete thought.

http://dictionary.reference.com/help/faq/language/a/and.html

And the meek shall inherit the earth.

It's also unacceptable to say "i wtfpwned u noob" in proper english, but fortunately this isn't grammar class.


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exe163
Skirmisher
posted 06-29-06 10:30 PM EDT (US)     147 / 176       
Guess I have to pay more attention in English class, I thought people don't care about gramma
Real2002
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posted 06-29-06 11:00 PM EDT (US)     148 / 176       

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Variety is the spice of writing, as it is of life!

Someone takes their job too seriously...


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Ender_Ward
Skirmisher
posted 06-29-06 11:04 PM EDT (US)     149 / 176       

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Ahem...
It is an accepted English rule that sentences cannot begin with the word "and," as this prevents the sentence from being a complete thought.

Not true. As others have already noted.

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Combine your second and third sentences.

Nah, I like it more the way I wrote it. More emphasis.

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Bastardized

You're right. The difference is, that even not being a native English speaker, I strive to make my posts comprehensible, while the person I replied to obviously does not.

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Conveniently

You're right. The difference is, that even not being a native English speaker, I strive to make my posts comprehensible, while the person I replied to obviously does not.

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Shoud "Market" really be capitalized? I don't think that it is a proper noun in this case.

All entities (units, buildings, techs) in the game should be capitalised. Generalised unit descriptions (cavalry, infantry, artillery) shouldn't be.

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Get rid of that comma in:
"One doesn't need to send Pioneers at all, to enjoy the raid resistant CdB bonus."

Nah, I like it more the way I wrote it. More emphasis.

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Do try to use the actual English language, not your bastardized version.

My "slightly" bastardized version is alot more readable than the person I replied to. And that's all I ask, not "perfect" English, but easily readable posts. Most people here seem to agree and maintain a certain standard of posting on this forum. But we do have to remind a few individuals from time to time to not degrade that standard. This was one of those times.


P.S.
And to go with the biblical theme, yes, I shall cast the first stone. Nobody might throw one otherwise!


"One wants to be loved, failing that admired, failing that feared, failing that hated and despised. One wants to instill in other people some form of emotion. The soul shudders before emptiness and wants contact, no matter the cost."
StonewallJ
Seraph Emeritus
(id: Conquistador34)
posted 06-29-06 11:09 PM EDT (US)     150 / 176       
Stop discussing grammar, we do not need to get nitty gritty. Granted, we do like well written posts without spelling and blatant grammatical errors, but no need to be that picky. Carry on about the French bonus (or lack there of).

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