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Topic Subject: FFA Fun Series Autumn/Winter 2007
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posted 06-23-07 06:28 AM EDT (US)   
Hello All,

For those of you who don’t know me, I am LordPatrick, or LP. I recently enough hosted a FFA Fun Series for the Spring/ Summer months, but technically it was only for Spring, as I had exams, and others had holidays. I am now hosting the 2nd of these series, for the Autumn/Winter months, but once again, due to the release of TAD sometime this Autumn, it will be starting mid-August to get the maximum amount of rounds in before TAD is released. So actually, this will be the last, although only the 2nd, TWC FFA Series, and I hope that it will be a memorable one.

The last Series had around 30 contestants, although some joined late, and some left early for one reason or another. But I suppose that is he joy of the FFA League, the fact that there is no pressure to play a round when you have previous engagements, or simply are feeling a bit under the weather.

Round 8

Map: Yukon
Date: 13th October
Time: 7.30pm GMT/ 8:30pm British Time/ 3:30pm HG Time

Patience is a Virtue

Last to Colonial gets 7 Points

One By One

Can only go Fortress when there are 5 people left. Can onyl go Industrial when there are 4 people left. Only last two can go Imperial. Anyone can revolt. If someone Disconnects, don't count them as being KO'ed, unless they were practically dead and liek just pulled the plug instead of resigning.

The contestants so far:

CookieCrisp13 = 208 Points
chinnie = 148 Points
Eicho = 143 Points
Sporting_Lisbon = 134 Points
LordPatrick = 119 Points
Bastiaan = 106 Points
AIGuy = 102 Points
C4tClysm = 100 Points
_Kenji_ = 84 Points
Dux = 79 Points
madame_praline = 68 Points
wigs = 58 Points
IRP_m0f0 = 49 Points
Walker_5 = 47 Points
Elite_Milne = 42 Points
JimXIX = 39 Points
RetroPriest = 38 Points
Bullet_Bill = 36 Points
Karel007 = 35 Points
smashnbash = 31 Points
bacon = 28 Points
Orlando_the_Axe = 24 Points
the_emperor222 = 24 Points
OdinOwesMe = 23 Points
steve09 = 23 Points
Mr_CoolBeans = 22 Points
Anthonythegreat = 21 Points
PCFreak8 = 19 Points
LordGeneral = 16 Points
JarlNick = 13 Points
goatlancer = 11 Points
chickenboy99 = 7 Points
Brian_NI = 4 Points
Hydrovert5 = 4 Points
General_II = 3 Points
Fecas =2 Points
Tommo = 1 Point
the_emperor = 0 Points
LordKivlov = 0 Points
ziGGysiGGy43 = 0 Points
Stonewall J = 0 Points
Destiny_Devil = 0 Points
MusketeerKing = 0 Points
AceOfKings = 0 Points
3snrocks = 0 Points
zuppa44 = 0 Points
OBESECOW = 0 Points
hazordousPickle = 0 Points
IAmMegaNoob = 0 Points
Fail_Safe = 0 Points
mentork = 0 Points
sandstorm = 0 Points
French_assailant = 0 Points
Farragut = 0 Points
CrazWildSin = 0 Points

The League runs on a point system, with players trying to earn maximum points each round, and the person with the most points at the end of the League wins. The point system was made to try and make games more fun, encouraging rushing and revolting, and not benefiting defensive players nearly as much.

As an added spice to the rounds, each round shall have 1 or 2 themes, as such, which either reward players for certain tasks completed, or force all players to drastically change their game plan. Some of themes from the previous League include:

“Patience is a Virtue” - Last to Colonial Gets Points
“One By One” - Only allowed progress to the next age once a player has been ko’ed, not inc. Discovery
“10 Card Decks” - 10 Cards per Deck.

I will include the successful themes from the last Series and hopefully many more. Feel free to tell me your ideas on ESO. During the League, I will be on ESO regularly, but sometimes leave it logged in, while I am AFK. Simply whisper your question/idea, and I will read it when I come back on the computer.

The formalities covered, I will now proceed to the rules.


Anyone can enter. In a FFA, everyone starts the game with an equal chance of winning. Rank means little when it’s everyone man for himself. And as long as you have fun, that’s all that matters. Everyone’s a winner at the end of the day! To sign up, simply leave your ESO name here.

Times And Dates

Each Round, the chatroom will be set up on ESO at 7.30pm GMT, or 3.30pm EDT (HG Time). The chat will be open for 1 Hour. Try to turn up early so you can be guarenteed a game, as it is often 1 or 2 players don't get a game because they are late and there isn't enough people.

The 1st Round will be on the 11th of August, 2007. The lat round will be determined by the Release of TAD. Rounds will continue to happen until TAD is released.


On the time of the round, I will tell certain people to host a game, and who to invite. You do not host or choose which game you want to be in. Once a game is full, you can go ahead with the game. The last game will always wait until 4.30pm to start, as I have to play in the last game, and I have to wait until 4.30pm to start.


- All games must be recorded
- Any cheating of any kind will result in an immediate ban from the League, and all further Leagues.
- The map will be set beforehand.
- All HC Levels
- No Warships
- The Point system stops after 1 Hour 45 Mins. When I am watching the recording, I will pause it on that time, and adjudicate all further points.
- No unsportsmanlike behaviour. If you don’t have anything positive to say, don’t say anything.
- Everyone must have fun :P.

Point System

Winning = 7 Points

Runner-up = 5 Points

Third Place = 3 Points

Unique Civ = 1 Point

Knocking Someone Out (I decide, may be split between two) = 4 Points

Being 2X Teamed (I decide if enough damage was done) = 4 Points

Knocking a TC sub-10Mins = 8 Points

Knocking a TC sub-15 Mins = 4 Points

Revolting = 2 Points

KO’ing,, or Joint KO’ing Someone After Revolting = 6 Points

First to 1000 Points = 2 Points

First to Industrial = 1 Point

First to Trigger a Trade Monopoly = 2 Points

Winning Using a TM = 20 Points*

Stopping a TM (May be Split) = 2 Points*

Wall Spamming = - 6 Points**

* - To get the points for winning with a TM, there must be at least 2 Others Present in the game. Every time a certain person triggers a TM, the value for that person winning with it drops by 1 Point. So if I win with TM after triggering it twice before triggering it and winning, I only get 18 Points. If you trigger it first, and then trigger it a second time and win, you get 21 Points ( 20+2-1).

** - There is nothing wrong with an outer wall, and then a wall protecting your eco inside it, but you will lose the 2 Points if you build layers upon layers of walls. Again, I decide what counts as wall spamming.

As you can see, there is heavy points for rushing, even more than that for winning. This is to stop cagy games where everyone booms to try and win the game. It encourages open fighting from the start. And please, don’t leave your TC open top a 15 Pike rush sub-10Mins. 5 Xbows would stop the other guy walking away with an easy 8 Points.

So, I guess that’s it then. I don’t think I’ve forgotten anything …

Leave your ESO, and I’ll sign you up. Sign-ups will end, in around 4 weeks time. I am going to Alton Towers, and then straight to Irish College after that, 3 days from now, so if you have any questions, ask them quickly. I already asked Destiny_Devil to answer any questions he knows the answers to while I’m gone. Sign-ups will close in 4 weeks time.

Also, there is places reserved to those who participated in the last Series. I honestly don’t know how much people will want to participate, but the more the merrier.

Have Fun,


Congratulations Serge - Winner of the FFA Spring Series 2008

[This message has been edited by LordPatrick18 (edited 10-24-2007 @ 06:20 AM).]

posted 08-23-07 07:38 PM EDT (US)     226 / 730  
Yeh you're allowed to pike rush! I just wanted to warn people not to let you get away with it!

Congratulations Serge - Winner of the FFA Spring Series 2008
posted 08-24-07 01:40 AM EDT (US)     227 / 730  
Gueeesssss whhooooosss back!!!!

Finally home from work, however I won't be able to play the upcoming game Next week though!

Looks like I got some catchin up to do.

Proud Citizen of Sovietcanuckistan
posted 08-24-07 05:17 AM EDT (US)     228 / 730  
Sorry i didnt show up the last games, i just got back from 3 weeks of USA... I'll be playing tomorrow
posted 08-24-07 07:52 AM EDT (US)     229 / 730  
Great to see some familiar faaces again.

And Kivlov I wouldn't put it past you

Congratulations Serge - Winner of the FFA Spring Series 2008
posted 08-24-07 02:40 PM EDT (US)     230 / 730  
Ok I just got my hands on KingSteve's Game, only to find that there was no game here. I am very sorry to those who did actually pla more than 8Mins but I cannot count this. I don't know what happened but with 2 people leaving so early it leaves this game void. Now this isn't going to please all of you, but it completely ruined the game. Walker_5's Gren rush was useless because on a large map with his 2 neighbours gone it took him 3 Mins to find a victim alone. Now I leave those who competed in it with 2 choices. Either I can organise another game with others who missed Round 2 for another day or you can get 2X Points for Round 3. I extend my apolagies to hose concerned for your time and effort wasted but it really was a mockery of a game.

Sorry for the inconvenience

Congratulations Serge - Winner of the FFA Spring Series 2008
posted 08-24-07 04:16 PM EDT (US)     231 / 730  
Sweet deal I got it the rec up finally
posted 08-24-07 04:31 PM EDT (US)     232 / 730  
You posted the wrong one Retro. You posted your record game 1 from Vanilla. It's only a .aoe3rec. You need to get the aoe3Xrec.

Congratulations Serge - Winner of the FFA Spring Series 2008
posted 08-24-07 04:40 PM EDT (US)     233 / 730  
I'll do 2x for round three. Whith a new born in the house I haven't got the time to do two games...

And yea, gren rush with the two closest neighboors out was a bad idea :-)

AgeSanctuary Staff member.
posted 08-24-07 04:41 PM EDT (US)     234 / 730  
Now this looks like an interesting theme, however, I'd like to know if this "allowed age up" may be split or how you count it.

In this scenario we have 3 players. Blue, Red and Green.
Blue has just pike-rushed Red while Red struggles to hold him off. When Blue only has about 3 pikes left, Green appears bringing another 30 pikes with him. He easily shakes what was left of Reds Town Center and retreats.

Who is now allowed to age up?

Q: How do I get veteran skirms as the dutch?
- you have to buy the upgrade in the the barracks lol it should be under the skimiser logo. -you have to be in age3 to get veteran and age 4 to get guard.
After realizing they get automatically upgraded:
- o right i play brits so i just guessed.....thats slighly embarrasing lol

"Ah, the wonderful smell of failure!" - George_III on a full-capslocked topic.
posted 08-24-07 05:38 PM EDT (US)     235 / 730  
Is HG Central or Eastern time?
Also I may be able to play tomorrow after all Which brings up this question.

Once I'm allowed to go fort, can I go industrial? (sorry if it's been asked before)

Proud Citizen of Sovietcanuckistan
posted 08-24-07 06:02 PM EDT (US)     236 / 730  
@ Kenji

It's whoever finishes the job. So if you are both simultaniously knocking it, I'd try and kill his troops first so you can guarentee the credit.

@ Kivlov

Well it shows the time so just see how many hours ahead or behind it you are and then you can know what time your time it is. And yes you only have to knock one to go to Fort. Once there you're free to do what you want.

Congratulations Serge - Winner of the FFA Spring Series 2008
posted 08-24-07 07:48 PM EDT (US)     237 / 730  
could i click the age button then knock out a TC while aging? say yes please, after all it is before you age up.

Scenarios I have made
Single Player-: CAMPAIGN - Christmas - Forest River RPG - Total Freedom
MultiPlayer-: Castle Blood Automatic - Mafia Hitman - Warrior Defence
ESO = sandstorm....................................................................................."I won the bet on 1.04!"
posted 08-24-07 07:58 PM EDT (US)     238 / 730  
Well pat, you did see the game i posted? it doesnt have the winner, but if the deadline comes up, you can always use the one i posted

Proud winner of the FFA Winter Round '07!
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"with all the bling on a mandsabar you could win the game by paying the enemy to resign." IL
posted 08-24-07 08:03 PM EDT (US)     239 / 730  
@ Sandstorm,

Well yeh, but if yo didn't get one you'd have t cancel it.

@ Cookie,

Well retro can post now, he just posted the wrong one, so I'll use his when he gets it.

Congratulations Serge - Winner of the FFA Spring Series 2008
posted 08-24-07 08:17 PM EDT (US)     240 / 730  
Hahah... I finally found where the time is displayed on AoEH. :P After countless times of reading where it is, looking at it and dismissing it... :P

Anyways I should be able to make it there tomorrow... Don't expect much of a fight from me though I haven't played in over 7 weeks.

Proud Citizen of Sovietcanuckistan
posted 08-24-07 11:15 PM EDT (US)     241 / 730  
ill be there...hopefully no ftj but if there is a late game ill play from my parents house
posted 08-24-07 11:23 PM EDT (US)     242 / 730  
My guess for surprise: no grens or pikes.

[] - Never gonna get updated in your life
posted 08-25-07 00:37 AM EDT (US)     243 / 730  
that would be crazy... no anticav? i think no siege dance or artillery foundry would be more acceptable
posted 08-25-07 01:10 PM EDT (US)     244 / 730  
Siege dance is in the forttress age, and thats targeting only one civ (my beloved sioux ) so i think that will be unlikely. It might just be no building TCs once in fort or something..

Proud winner of the FFA Winter Round '07!
[Judgε][Epic Thread]
My Vods:[One] [Two][Three][Four]
"with all the bling on a mandsabar you could win the game by paying the enemy to resign." IL
posted 08-25-07 04:41 PM EDT (US)     245 / 730  
My game froze, it is stillon right now. Retro and C4 suddenly dropped and now it wont move

THE recorded game works! ill upload it right away.

There are a few things that need clarification.

first of all, not c4 but walker should be 3rd, as c4 dropped, and i think its clear wigs was 2 and i was 1. walker and wigs can confirm this. Then, it is clear that i would have killed the last of both retro and walker, and i had in fact already given the orders to their last places (i had spies). I also think its quite clear wigs deserves the pooints for c4. a shame it ended like this, i would have earned a lot of points had it played on. now i came to this:

won - 7
unique civ - 1
knocking out 2x - 8
tc sub 15 - 4
first to 1K- 2

[This message has been edited by Bastiaan (edited 08-25-2007 @ 05:08 PM).]

posted 08-25-07 05:26 PM EDT (US)     246 / 730  
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= wall spammer.

Personally i thienk we should increase the penalty from at -3 to around -8. three points doenst make a difference when you get first place because of it. shouldnt that get a worse penalty? especially when you do it repeatedly.

not to sound too serious, i just think it should be dealt with, as thats why he won (atm)

Proud winner of the FFA Winter Round '07!
[Judgε][Epic Thread]
My Vods:[One] [Two][Three][Four]
"with all the bling on a mandsabar you could win the game by paying the enemy to resign." IL

[This message has been edited by Cookiecrisp13 (edited 08-25-2007 @ 05:31 PM).]

posted 08-25-07 05:44 PM EDT (US)     247 / 730  
yea, that is wall spam. I missed it

On a sidenote, Cookiecrisp, what graphics card do you have. i need one

BTW what was the surprise?

Lolocausts are fun.
posted 08-25-07 06:03 PM EDT (US)     248 / 730  
Its not a fun surprise really.. IMO i didnt like it. (not gonna tell you cuz of some games havennt been played yet)

But yeah.. i have 2 7600 GS in SLI mode

yeah Dux won, unfortunately. seems it mightve been a TM victory.

Proud winner of the FFA Winter Round '07!
[Judgε][Epic Thread]
My Vods:[One] [Two][Three][Four]
"with all the bling on a mandsabar you could win the game by paying the enemy to resign." IL
posted 08-25-07 06:09 PM EDT (US)     249 / 730  
LOL i have an ATI X600 and mine can do that 2
posted 08-25-07 06:25 PM EDT (US)     250 / 730  
Lol, I won, but not because of trade monopoly. I was close, but couldnt pull it off. We were in route to me winning by points cause it was getting close to 1:45.

Anyway, game is uploaded, & I dont mind the wall spam penalty as it is now, it's not as if I was wall pushing, which I could.

-8 Wall penalty is upsetting, it's too much. -2 seems fine.

Btw, walls are the only way to effectively stop raids, as walls are unfun for you, raids on my eco are very unfun to me. It's all about perspective.

Besides, me thinks you're just mad I beat you with dopples.
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