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Topic Subject: FFA Fun Series Autumn/Winter 2007
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posted 06-23-07 06:28 AM EDT (US)   
Hello All,

For those of you who don’t know me, I am LordPatrick, or LP. I recently enough hosted a FFA Fun Series for the Spring/ Summer months, but technically it was only for Spring, as I had exams, and others had holidays. I am now hosting the 2nd of these series, for the Autumn/Winter months, but once again, due to the release of TAD sometime this Autumn, it will be starting mid-August to get the maximum amount of rounds in before TAD is released. So actually, this will be the last, although only the 2nd, TWC FFA Series, and I hope that it will be a memorable one.

The last Series had around 30 contestants, although some joined late, and some left early for one reason or another. But I suppose that is he joy of the FFA League, the fact that there is no pressure to play a round when you have previous engagements, or simply are feeling a bit under the weather.

Round 8

Map: Yukon
Date: 13th October
Time: 7.30pm GMT/ 8:30pm British Time/ 3:30pm HG Time

Patience is a Virtue

Last to Colonial gets 7 Points

One By One

Can only go Fortress when there are 5 people left. Can onyl go Industrial when there are 4 people left. Only last two can go Imperial. Anyone can revolt. If someone Disconnects, don't count them as being KO'ed, unless they were practically dead and liek just pulled the plug instead of resigning.

The contestants so far:

CookieCrisp13 = 208 Points
chinnie = 148 Points
Eicho = 143 Points
Sporting_Lisbon = 134 Points
LordPatrick = 119 Points
Bastiaan = 106 Points
AIGuy = 102 Points
C4tClysm = 100 Points
_Kenji_ = 84 Points
Dux = 79 Points
madame_praline = 68 Points
wigs = 58 Points
IRP_m0f0 = 49 Points
Walker_5 = 47 Points
Elite_Milne = 42 Points
JimXIX = 39 Points
RetroPriest = 38 Points
Bullet_Bill = 36 Points
Karel007 = 35 Points
smashnbash = 31 Points
bacon = 28 Points
Orlando_the_Axe = 24 Points
the_emperor222 = 24 Points
OdinOwesMe = 23 Points
steve09 = 23 Points
Mr_CoolBeans = 22 Points
Anthonythegreat = 21 Points
PCFreak8 = 19 Points
LordGeneral = 16 Points
JarlNick = 13 Points
goatlancer = 11 Points
chickenboy99 = 7 Points
Brian_NI = 4 Points
Hydrovert5 = 4 Points
General_II = 3 Points
Fecas =2 Points
Tommo = 1 Point
the_emperor = 0 Points
LordKivlov = 0 Points
ziGGysiGGy43 = 0 Points
Stonewall J = 0 Points
Destiny_Devil = 0 Points
MusketeerKing = 0 Points
AceOfKings = 0 Points
3snrocks = 0 Points
zuppa44 = 0 Points
OBESECOW = 0 Points
hazordousPickle = 0 Points
IAmMegaNoob = 0 Points
Fail_Safe = 0 Points
mentork = 0 Points
sandstorm = 0 Points
French_assailant = 0 Points
Farragut = 0 Points
CrazWildSin = 0 Points

The League runs on a point system, with players trying to earn maximum points each round, and the person with the most points at the end of the League wins. The point system was made to try and make games more fun, encouraging rushing and revolting, and not benefiting defensive players nearly as much.

As an added spice to the rounds, each round shall have 1 or 2 themes, as such, which either reward players for certain tasks completed, or force all players to drastically change their game plan. Some of themes from the previous League include:

“Patience is a Virtue” - Last to Colonial Gets Points
“One By One” - Only allowed progress to the next age once a player has been ko’ed, not inc. Discovery
“10 Card Decks” - 10 Cards per Deck.

I will include the successful themes from the last Series and hopefully many more. Feel free to tell me your ideas on ESO. During the League, I will be on ESO regularly, but sometimes leave it logged in, while I am AFK. Simply whisper your question/idea, and I will read it when I come back on the computer.

The formalities covered, I will now proceed to the rules.


Anyone can enter. In a FFA, everyone starts the game with an equal chance of winning. Rank means little when it’s everyone man for himself. And as long as you have fun, that’s all that matters. Everyone’s a winner at the end of the day! To sign up, simply leave your ESO name here.

Times And Dates

Each Round, the chatroom will be set up on ESO at 7.30pm GMT, or 3.30pm EDT (HG Time). The chat will be open for 1 Hour. Try to turn up early so you can be guarenteed a game, as it is often 1 or 2 players don't get a game because they are late and there isn't enough people.

The 1st Round will be on the 11th of August, 2007. The lat round will be determined by the Release of TAD. Rounds will continue to happen until TAD is released.


On the time of the round, I will tell certain people to host a game, and who to invite. You do not host or choose which game you want to be in. Once a game is full, you can go ahead with the game. The last game will always wait until 4.30pm to start, as I have to play in the last game, and I have to wait until 4.30pm to start.


- All games must be recorded
- Any cheating of any kind will result in an immediate ban from the League, and all further Leagues.
- The map will be set beforehand.
- All HC Levels
- No Warships
- The Point system stops after 1 Hour 45 Mins. When I am watching the recording, I will pause it on that time, and adjudicate all further points.
- No unsportsmanlike behaviour. If you don’t have anything positive to say, don’t say anything.
- Everyone must have fun :P.

Point System

Winning = 7 Points

Runner-up = 5 Points

Third Place = 3 Points

Unique Civ = 1 Point

Knocking Someone Out (I decide, may be split between two) = 4 Points

Being 2X Teamed (I decide if enough damage was done) = 4 Points

Knocking a TC sub-10Mins = 8 Points

Knocking a TC sub-15 Mins = 4 Points

Revolting = 2 Points

KO’ing,, or Joint KO’ing Someone After Revolting = 6 Points

First to 1000 Points = 2 Points

First to Industrial = 1 Point

First to Trigger a Trade Monopoly = 2 Points

Winning Using a TM = 20 Points*

Stopping a TM (May be Split) = 2 Points*

Wall Spamming = - 6 Points**

* - To get the points for winning with a TM, there must be at least 2 Others Present in the game. Every time a certain person triggers a TM, the value for that person winning with it drops by 1 Point. So if I win with TM after triggering it twice before triggering it and winning, I only get 18 Points. If you trigger it first, and then trigger it a second time and win, you get 21 Points ( 20+2-1).

** - There is nothing wrong with an outer wall, and then a wall protecting your eco inside it, but you will lose the 2 Points if you build layers upon layers of walls. Again, I decide what counts as wall spamming.

As you can see, there is heavy points for rushing, even more than that for winning. This is to stop cagy games where everyone booms to try and win the game. It encourages open fighting from the start. And please, don’t leave your TC open top a 15 Pike rush sub-10Mins. 5 Xbows would stop the other guy walking away with an easy 8 Points.

So, I guess that’s it then. I don’t think I’ve forgotten anything …

Leave your ESO, and I’ll sign you up. Sign-ups will end, in around 4 weeks time. I am going to Alton Towers, and then straight to Irish College after that, 3 days from now, so if you have any questions, ask them quickly. I already asked Destiny_Devil to answer any questions he knows the answers to while I’m gone. Sign-ups will close in 4 weeks time.

Also, there is places reserved to those who participated in the last Series. I honestly don’t know how much people will want to participate, but the more the merrier.

Have Fun,


Congratulations Serge - Winner of the FFA Spring Series 2008

[This message has been edited by LordPatrick18 (edited 10-24-2007 @ 06:20 AM).]

posted 06-30-07 10:54 AM EDT (US)     51 / 730  
I'm down, sign me up LP

posted 07-01-07 03:06 AM EDT (US)     52 / 730  
So how many people are playing again just to take on my arrogance? :P

Proud Citizen of Sovietcanuckistan
posted 07-01-07 06:20 AM EDT (US)     53 / 730  
And your Opris.

"The better at AoE, the worse at RL" - Doppel
After someone suggesting to make a meatshield to fight off petards..."Where can I find this meatshield? Is it in the TC?" - Sjalle

"That last comment has earned you a ban Musk" - Solus
On realising I was on a 2nd account:"Quinarvy ehhh" - Solus

Mine and Micky's OPness
posted 07-01-07 12:41 PM EDT (US)     54 / 730  
Just wait until you get double-teamed

FFA Fun Series - Spring/Summer 07 winner
posted 07-01-07 12:50 PM EDT (US)     55 / 730  
Double? haha

Cuadruple teamed
posted 07-01-07 01:40 PM EDT (US)     56 / 730  
I'll just grenadier rush you.

ESO: JarlNick

Want to talk OP? AOE3 Abus Guns at release were nightmares. But I knew how to take care of them! Beware my Culverins you artillery bastards! Oh wait...- MNBob

posted 07-01-07 03:30 PM EDT (US)     57 / 730  
Not if I get to him first!

Ahh, great game that one where I managed to gren rush three players in the face of Stoney :-)
Him running arround with his pikes trying to find some one to attack!
posted 07-01-07 05:28 PM EDT (US)     58 / 730  
and in that game you and Stoney attaked my TC at same time.
exactly same time.
you cant imagine how fast a TC goes down with 30 pikes and 20 greadier with OP birt card attaking it.
it took you like.. 8 seconds
posted 07-01-07 06:48 PM EDT (US)     59 / 730  
You can't imagine how fast I can drop someones base with 50 Opris
Well a few people don't have to imagine it

Proud Citizen of Sovietcanuckistan
posted 07-16-07 10:12 AM EDT (US)     60 / 730  

AgeSanctuary Staff member.
posted 07-16-07 10:58 AM EDT (US)     61 / 730  
Sign me up! ESO: Pcfreak8

ESO : Pcfreak8
"In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice, but in practice there is." -Jan L. A. van de Snepscheu
A pessimist is usually right and never disappointed.
Any history buff knows that nothing stops a cannon like a good uppercut. - BeatnikJoe
posted 07-16-07 11:21 AM EDT (US)     62 / 730  
I would love to play in this, as it seems you put on quite the program last time LP . Will it always be played on Saturdays though? If so, that would totally bum me out. I'd be able to play the first three, but then its college football season! As much as I love aoe3, I think I love tailgating and heading to the "big house" just a bit more . Go Blue!

"Where can I find this meatshield? Is it in the TC?" ~sjalle
posted 07-16-07 09:28 PM EDT (US)     63 / 730  
Ahhh noes! I leave either tomorrow or the next day to work up north and won't be back untill the end of august!

Going to miss this one

Proud Citizen of Sovietcanuckistan
posted 07-16-07 09:32 PM EDT (US)     64 / 730  
Sign me up!

ESO: XenonH

I'll be back from China just in time for this. I hope it isn't on weekdays though, because I don't have time on non-vacation weekdays to play, and when I do find enough time, my parents don't let me =(

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posted 07-17-07 08:13 AM EDT (US)     65 / 730  
Kivlov, it has nothing to do with "quadrupel teamed" has it

AgeSanctuary Staff member.
posted 07-19-07 09:15 AM EDT (US)     66 / 730  
Ok I'm back people.

Now I'll do my best to answer all your questions.

There will be a No Water Maps Rule, for reasons Eicho explained earlier.

Ultra_Janissary - Unfortunately I will not be making a second time for this League, not unless I get a much bigger panel, need 15 or so more people. If so, I would happily arrange a time that suits you and others in your time zone.

2X Rule - Someone asked about the 2X Teaming rule. I suppose it was badly phrased, it isn't depending on how much damage was done, but how much intent to damage. If two people are content on teaming up to do damage, that is where points are awarded.

Wall Spamming - Wall spaming is when you build masses of walls. I already said that a well-planned wall system is perfectly allowed, its just I don't endless amounts of walls which slow the game down.

I think that's all the questions covered. I will be on ESO until Saturday if you need to talk.

Congratulations Serge - Winner of the FFA Spring Series 2008
posted 07-19-07 10:00 AM EDT (US)     67 / 730  
Siiighhhh, I'm leaving in 3 hours, I have no idea whether or not I'll be back anytime before the last week of august. If I am, you can bet I'll be playing, if not
Going to miss 3 weeks of rounds... Bah! I can catch up! Mwhahahahha

and it's not the quadruple team I'm afraid of... it's the quintuple team :P Who will join with me for the greater good?!

Oh and Pat, wheres my challenger tag?

Proud Citizen of Sovietcanuckistan

[This message has been edited by LordKivlov (edited 07-19-2007 @ 10:06 AM).]

posted 07-19-07 10:27 AM EDT (US)     68 / 730  
Will do Kivlov.

But First, I would like to bring bak up the issue of prizes. If prizes were provided, would anyone feel like it would affect the fun element of the Series, or do you think that it would add a competitive edge to the League. I value everyone's opinion so please don't delay it answering.

Congratulations Serge - Winner of the FFA Spring Series 2008
posted 07-19-07 10:42 AM EDT (US)     69 / 730  
I think that the prizes would bring out the competetive edge in people, but it could also bring out the petty and lame side to people.

This is supposed to be fun, adding anything of actual value for winning is going to change people's attitude towards winning and denying certain people the win.

Something like a AoE/ES watch or hat for the top 3 players would be a nice treat and would make winning just that much sweeter but I know a lot of people are going in this with the intent to have fun and a possible stab at the win. Only a few I'd imagine would be going in with the intent of Win first, Have fun second. It would be the people with this attitude that could ruin the entire tournament for people.

I guess it's just how petty people want to be over winning the prize. However adding a prize won't change how I'm going to be playing in this (Late and with much Fervor!).

That said, I'd be very happy to see a prize for this tournament for the winner(s)/best sport/etc.

Proud Citizen of Sovietcanuckistan
posted 07-20-07 05:24 AM EDT (US)     70 / 730  
A price is OK as long as its nothing big or of great value.
I always play for fun/winning anyhow! (more fun when you are winning)

AgeSanctuary Staff member.
posted 07-20-07 08:56 AM EDT (US)     71 / 730  
I don't care that much about prizes. fun > winning

FFA Fun Series - Spring/Summer 07 winner
posted 07-20-07 10:24 AM EDT (US)     72 / 730  
I think if a prize was included you would see Iro all the time, Spanish, Dutch 4 Bank FF and Throughbread laming......The list goes on.

I never have a chance of winning this thing cos i only a Sergeant but i agree fun>winning

~#~#~ ESO: bacon~#~#~

Favorite Civs: China, Germans, Aztec

PR Rank: Master Sergeant.
posted 07-20-07 10:52 AM EDT (US)     73 / 730  
I'll play

ESO: goatlancer
posted 07-20-07 11:30 AM EDT (US)     74 / 730  
Seeing how there are points for rushing, I think 4 banks FF or Iro GH is kind of out of the question.

Prices are Ok for me as long as they also are for fun - not of high value!

AgeSanctuary Staff member.
posted 07-20-07 11:50 AM EDT (US)     75 / 730  
I think you should get -2 points for playing Russia or France, -1 point for playing Dutch or Germany or any other civ with an abnormally good lategame and +2 points for playing sioux.

ONLY IF you go lategame though. Meaning you don't get wiped before 30 minutes or so.

[] - Never gonna get updated in your life

[This message has been edited by AI Guy (edited 07-20-2007 @ 11:51 AM).]

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