Camp
Skirmisher
posted 05-03-08 11:26 AM EDT (US)
I understand the german shipment penalty, I think its ~14 percent? Not exactly sure, but I know its to compensate for the "Free" uhlans that come with every shipment from colonial on.... There is however, one card that I think needs a bit of tweaking...
5 Uhlans
5 Uhlans is a great shipment in most of my decks, but its also not really a fair shipment for the german player. Take out the 2 uhlans that you "get free" for the shipment bonus, now its just 3 uhlans
3 uhlans is weaker than 3 hussar and 4 sowar, seriously weaker. The base shipment (minus the 2 "FREE" uhlans) should be 4 uhlans, then the 2 free ones added on for a shipment of 6.
basicially 5 Uhlan card should be 6 because otherwise the 14% penalty only gives one uhlan on this card.
Your thoughts?
English Shogun
Skirmisher
posted 05-03-08 11:42 AM
EDT (US)
1 / 16
having 6 uhlans shipped in COLONIAL is just absurd. they'd destroy anything. i even think 5 is a bit too much, but hey, i live with it.
Camp
Skirmisher
posted 05-03-08 11:45 AM
EDT (US)
2 / 16
I understand how powerful it would be but its just another commonly used card that doesn't actually use the XP penalty
That xp penalty is on all german shipments, like your discovery 2 wagons which almost every german uses and gets no uhlans, so if you send 2 wagons then 5 uhlans, your 28% behind on xp and you've seen no return on it yet. That is a problem.
Humility
Skirmisher
posted 05-03-08 04:14 PM
EDT (US)
5 / 16
5 Uhlan is balanced now. This is constantly talked about and constantly shot down. 6 uhlans would be op 5 uhlans is fine. it is useful and balanced.
Camp
Skirmisher
posted 05-04-08 01:18 AM
EDT (US)
8 / 16
When ES gave germans the shipment penalty they calculated that 1 uhlan was worth 7% shipment penalty, 2 is worth 14% and so on...
I understand that it would be terribly unbalanced, but shipments come in sooo dam slow for germans that it almost forces you to go with 9xbow2uhlan first, when sometimes you need those extra uhlans..
I think the way to fix the problem, and all of you can tell me what you think about this, is to remove the shipment penalty on the first shipment only, and then have a 14 % penalty on the rest of the shipments from there on. Mathmaticially 5 uhlans should be 6, and I understand that that would be unbalanced, so maybe also the "non-uhlan" cards should also grant 14% xp to "cover" for the unused penalty...
what do you think?
Spectruz
Skirmisher
posted 05-04-08 11:46 AM
EDT (US)
11 / 16
Make sense in theory what u guys saying about have 6 uhlans instead of 4, but in practice it will be so op that noobs from the 4 corners of the world will start play Germans, I think We need to focus balance where it is needed, with Calvary fixed, Uhlan is a good unit now, and German is a well balanced civ, lets see what we can do to balance a little more Up civs, like the poor Ports, or brink some Op civ down to balance, and so far since I start in Vanilla this is the most balanced patch yet, even ports stand a chance to win.
Flair
Skirmisher
posted 05-04-08 12:37 PM
EDT (US)
12 / 16
One extra Uhlan is not going to make the Germans ridiculously OP.