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zezarak
Skirmisher
posted 01-25-09 11:09 AM EDT (US)         
Okay, I have been wondering if anyone can make a guide on several base setups for best defense. I know (walls, walls, walls...) but a productive setup that could help defending your economy and your precious barracks, factories, ect..


Anyone got a good screen shot or several ways to make a base productive?

P.S. Hope this is right forum topic to post in....
Thanks,
Zezarak

[This message has been edited by zezarak (edited 01-25-2009 @ 11:10 AM).]

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As_Saffah
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posted 01-25-09 02:45 PM EDT (US)     1 / 45       
Some ideas:

Put barracks and stables behind TC with gather point just in front, so raiding and rushing armies come under TC fire before they burn down your military buildings.

Put the first tower or two just forward of your TC or if you're building a forward base, just in front and lateral to your military buildings. This way it won't alert enemy units to its presence unless they are attacking it, in which case they come under tower fire.

If your secondary hunts and mines are a ways from your base, put a tower just behind them so gatherers can retreat into the tower and buy you time to respond.

When building walls, if you only have a few wood to spare and don't want to waste villger seconds, build your first walls as a screen to delay enemy getting into your eco. even if you only build 3 or 4 wall segments, build them in such a way that they shield your flank and direct enemy units to go around them via towers, TC fire, and military gather points. later, you can expand the wall as needed. A good arrangement is to have a partial wall running along inside your TC fire range (just inside of it so attacking units get into its range) between 1 TC and 1 tower. In the middle between the two is your military gather point for ranged infantry, sort of like a box. Raiders and rushers have to send their melee troops around the sides of the box, getting TC fire and infantry volley. Meanwhile your eco is safely garrisoned for now.

Use nearby cliffs and water as a natural barrier. If your starting tc is close to water, build a dock to help defend your flank with ships. Likewise your tc fire will help cover and defend your docks and any fishing you do. If your starting TC is close to a cliff, use walls and towers to make attackers have to navigate around the cliffs and soak up a lot of tower fire.

Probably the best advice is to be aggressive. Applying consistent pressure on their own base will keep them out of yours.

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zezarak
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posted 01-25-09 03:03 PM EDT (US)     2 / 45       
Okay thanks, if any more ideas, would love to know!
FenrisWulf
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posted 01-25-09 04:05 PM EDT (US)     3 / 45       
You might want to check out socrstar's guide to turtling: http://aoe3.heavengames.com/cgi-bin/forums/display.cgi?action=ct&f=1,36657,,all

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A_US_James246
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posted 01-26-09 03:19 AM EDT (US)     4 / 45       
You might want to change your avatar
Sawyer
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posted 01-26-09 03:23 AM EDT (US)     5 / 45       
lol

Do everything As-Saffah says.

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zezarak
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posted 01-27-09 00:01 AM EDT (US)     6 / 45       
Oh i will change it now, because i don't know what kinda things i might catch with you having it ^_^ jk.


Thanks everyone!
Been a little better at setup...
Droideka_11
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posted 01-27-09 00:05 AM EDT (US)     7 / 45       
You should change your avatar back to Russians James.

You Ottoman wannabe

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Tyler McIntosh
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posted 01-27-09 02:19 AM EDT (US)     8 / 45       
Keep military buildings behind tc so they don't know what your making, also some people like to have houses stretched out all over the map or little pieces of wall for map los. You can also use banks in front to defend with so they waste there time on banks while you can do other stuff since it takes so long to kill bank. Houses crowded results in it making it harder for them to get to your tc or other important buildings so that they wont take them down as fast.
A_US_James246
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posted 01-27-09 03:28 AM EDT (US)     9 / 45       
You should change your avatar back to Russians James.

You Ottoman wannabe
Meh. I don't like Russia anymore. I got booooored of them.

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iTech64
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posted 01-27-09 07:56 AM EDT (US)     10 / 45       
Wasn't Tyler McIntosh a smurf for Macndouche?
i thought he got banned?
Droideka_11
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posted 01-27-09 10:26 AM EDT (US)     11 / 45       
Wasn't Tyler McIntosh a smurf for Macndouche?
i thought he got banned?
Oh yeah, I remember the both had those "Mc" letters in them. Oh well, if he's not doing anything wrong then its fine with me.

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Valckrie1
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posted 01-27-09 12:29 PM EDT (US)     12 / 45       
Tyler is Flex??? Flex is ownage, but tyler doesn't seem like that pro

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Tyler McIntosh
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posted 01-27-09 12:54 PM EDT (US)     13 / 45       
Haha thanks droideka, im glad to be back.
Droideka_11
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posted 01-27-09 01:54 PM EDT (US)     14 / 45       
Tyler is Flex??? Flex is ownage, but tyler doesn't seem like that pro
Yes it seems he's become a pro since last I was here...

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CrazyLunatic
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posted 01-27-09 07:10 PM EDT (US)     15 / 45       
"You should change your avatar back to Russians James."

his avatar isn't showing for me....


ya i thought tylermcintosh got banned...? maybe the ban expired by now...
iTech64
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posted 01-27-09 07:20 PM EDT (US)     16 / 45       
well when they banned him it said smurf was perma banned, and that mac's ban would expire in one month..

guess they perma banned his real account and kept the smurf.
Sad_But_True
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posted 01-27-09 07:42 PM EDT (US)     17 / 45       
General_II is ganna pwn him in a week or less. Who wants to put money on it?
iTech64
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posted 01-27-09 07:45 PM EDT (US)     18 / 45       
hmm, ya think tyler will mess up that fast?
this could be a good deal..
Tyler McIntosh
Skirmisher
posted 01-27-09 10:33 PM EDT (US)     19 / 45       
What are you guys talking about?A little off topic maybe?...hmmm.
zezarak
Skirmisher
posted 01-27-09 10:46 PM EDT (US)     20 / 45       
This is asking about base setup not about a few online kiddos.

Please stay on topic, it's almost an insult to me that you don't even talk about the subject.
iTech64
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posted 01-27-09 11:00 PM EDT (US)     21 / 45       
gosh okay,, well whenever i set up my base, i set my military building to the side that i know they wont attack from.
i put the houses around the front and toward the outskirts of my town.
i never actually seem to set up my town in a specific way,
more of a nomadic setup, put things up toward the outside of my base, as i need them,

though depending on the type of strategy you are going to do you could either surround your town center with buildings for defense,
or if you are rushing, much of your buildings may be in your forward base.
my type of base is made for map control and LOS.

that on-topic enough?
CookieCrisp13
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posted 01-28-09 10:21 AM EDT (US)     22 / 45       
I would like to direct your attention here to strategy on house placement to defend your town center by Cyclohexane. I think you might be looking for something of that sort?

- Scroll over untill you see Strategy: House placement and Strategy: Town center, those are the guides you will be looking for

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oliandsam
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posted 01-28-09 01:10 PM EDT (US)     23 / 45       
this is not my game these images are from a recorded game

but this image does give you a good idea on building a town



this a close up of the gap between the banks. This is the only way his opponent can get in to his base giving him a good advantage. (in this particular game the Jap player wins with his OPnes the dutch player actually plays better but jap is just so OP)


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zezarak
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posted 01-28-09 02:13 PM EDT (US)     24 / 45       
Why thank you for those pictures. Gave me a good idea.


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Calier
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posted 02-06-09 04:27 PM EDT (US)     25 / 45       
I have nothing much to say, but that your formation isn't what i do, i just build walls, and a bunch of outposts, and my Military buildings go around my economic area, (which is filled with villies).

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