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Pale Horse
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posted 11-02-05 05:22 PM EDT (US)         
Now that I have the mods attention, please retitle and sticky.

Age of Empires 3 Benchmarks on a Variety of Graphics Cards


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Pale Horse
Skirmisher
posted 11-29-05 06:25 PM EDT (US)     26 / 97       
showFPS was enableed on each. Look in the lower right hand corner.

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scipio_africanus
Skirmisher
posted 11-30-05 07:03 AM EDT (US)     27 / 97       
Can anyone anwser my question?

I don't really know much about ATI product lines.

How does a Sapprire Radeon 9800 pro 128MB 470MHz core clock compare to a FX5200 128MB, and is it worth 40 ($70)?


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Pale Horse
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posted 11-30-05 11:11 AM EDT (US)     28 / 97       
You are comparing apples to oranges. The FX5200 is a four pipeline card (compared to 8 for the 9800 Pro), so no matter what the frequency, that bandwidth mult is one half.

The 9800 Pro is almost twice the card the FX5200 is, and was meant to compete with the 5800Ultra.

However, to answer your question, FX5200's typically clock @ ~400MHz.


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Brtnboarder495
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posted 11-30-05 03:11 PM EDT (US)     29 / 97       
Exactly, the FPS in battle are 7 ... anything below 30 is pretty poor and easily displays lag.

Moving on, don't consider upgrading to anything below the 6600GT or 6800GS, it's not worth your cash.


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scipio_africanus
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posted 12-04-05 09:41 AM EDT (US)     30 / 97       
So is the card worth 40?

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Duan Xuan
Skirmisher
posted 12-04-05 10:53 AM EDT (US)     31 / 97       
The 9800Pro was (note: was) great, but it's really very old stuff now. On the other hand, I can't think of any decent card that you can get with just 40 pounds. =/ IMHO it's not really worth the money, upgrading to an old graphics card.
Taufiq Khan
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posted 12-04-05 11:33 PM EDT (US)     32 / 97       
Sorry, I suck when it comes to actually opening up a computer

How can I find out if my computer will support a certain video card?


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Duan Xuan
Skirmisher
posted 12-05-05 03:31 AM EDT (US)     33 / 97       
You will need to look out for two things: whether your PC has the required graphics slot on the motherboard, and whether your power supply is good enough to power the card.

For the former, check if you have an AGP slot, a PCI-Express slot, or neither. This article (and the following few pages) would be useful to identify the slots just by looking at them.

As for the power supply issue, it is especially important if you're getting a rather new graphics card.

Taufiq Khan
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posted 12-05-05 11:40 AM EDT (US)     34 / 97       
Thanks man!

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Brtnboarder495
Skirmisher
posted 12-05-05 08:53 PM EDT (US)     35 / 97       
Let us know how it goes.

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Taufiq Khan
Skirmisher
(id: Shala_T)
posted 12-15-05 10:32 AM EDT (US)     36 / 97       
Haha, I was a bit confused when I opened it up and found nothing...

Turns out my crappy motherboard didn't even have slots for extra video cards...

Anyway, I took it into the shop and got a new motherboard/graphics card/ram. Made sure to ask whether the motherboard had PCI or AGP. Three AGP slots it is


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Duan Xuan
Skirmisher
posted 12-15-05 12:13 PM EDT (US)     37 / 97       
Huh... there's no such thing as 3 AGP slots...
Taufiq Khan
Skirmisher
(id: Shala_T)
posted 12-16-05 02:06 AM EDT (US)     38 / 97       
Well that's what the guy said...
Or I just didn't get him...lol

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Duan Xuan
Skirmisher
posted 12-16-05 04:03 AM EDT (US)     39 / 97       
It would be more like 3 PCI slots... What's the brand and model of your new mobo?
AnC_Ivo17
Skirmisher
posted 12-20-05 08:51 AM EDT (US)     40 / 97       
This is a new standard, registered by myself, called Tripledfire and uses agp 2x, LOLZ .
Now seriously, 3xPCI? Wow u'll have to look for a shop selling antiques in order to find a PCI GPU's, videocrds (hardly could any1 say they have a processing unit!)

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Lord Somebody
Skirmisher
posted 12-20-05 02:47 PM EDT (US)     41 / 97       

Quote:

Now seriously, 3xPCI

I would say he has a Dell computer

[This message has been edited by Lord somebody (edited 12-20-2005 @ 02:48 PM).]

Brtnboarder495
Skirmisher
posted 12-20-05 06:00 PM EDT (US)     42 / 97       
Does it matter? It's getting to the point where the arguement doesn't make any sense.

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Swift Sampson
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posted 12-23-05 05:02 AM EDT (US)     43 / 97       
Hey, I'm not sure if this is right place to ask...

I'm extremely n00b when it comes to graphics cards and I need to upgrade for AoE3.
I'm thinking of buying this card:

Quote:

GIGABYTE
256MB 6600 TD
Chipset: NVIDIA GeForce 6600
Memory: 256MB, 128bits DDRIII
Bus: AGP 8x
TV out, DVI PORT, D-SUB, MultiView
$189 AU


Could someone tell me if this is a good choice if I want to play AoE3 at its best? I want all the things like water reflections, shadows ect. Also, what does the TD mean?

Thanks.


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[This message has been edited by Swift Sampson (edited 12-23-2005 @ 05:04 AM).]

AnC_Ivo17
Skirmisher
posted 12-23-05 05:46 AM EDT (US)     44 / 97       
For AOE3 to go on max, get a 6800GS or GT, whats ur gpu ineterface, agp or pcie?

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Swift Sampson
Skirmisher
posted 12-23-05 06:12 AM EDT (US)     45 / 97       

Quote:

For AOE3 to go on max, get a 6800GS or GT


I can't go that high, low on money.. anything around $190-$250 for me.

Quote:

whats ur gpu ineterface, agp or pcie?


AGP.

I wanted to know if the card I asked about will be ok for AoE3 or if it's a good card at all.
And what do the "GT" and "TD" ect. mean?


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[This message has been edited by Swift Sampson (edited 12-23-2005 @ 06:57 AM).]

Pale Horse
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posted 12-23-05 09:17 AM EDT (US)     46 / 97       
A 6600GT will likely be the compromise between your price range and decent performance. I have a 6800, very similar performance, and play @1280x1024,Very High Shaders,High Shadows, and bloom on (no aa, no vsync) with good results.


In US Dollars,

6600GT ~$130
6800 ~$140

GT mean nothing, but generally refers to a higher performance (faster memory, higher clock settings) card.

GS is even Higher.

GTX is highest.

LE is usually lower performance that standard.

UL or Ultra was/is synonomous with what is now GS and or GTX, but has been dropped.


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[This message has been edited by Pale Horse (edited 12-23-2005 @ 09:21 AM).]

Brtnboarder495
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posted 12-23-05 10:02 AM EDT (US)     47 / 97       
You should definetly be able to buy an AGP 6800GS for around $200, it's just that they haven't been released yet.

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Swift Sampson
Skirmisher
posted 12-23-05 10:20 AM EDT (US)     48 / 97       
Well this is the range I have to choose from:
http://www.cpl.net.au/catalogue/page12.pdf

And most of them are PCI E which I can't have, could you advise any of the AGP cards from there within $190-$250?


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Pale Horse
Skirmisher
posted 12-23-05 10:57 AM EDT (US)     49 / 97       
Well that settles it. The best you can do (VAT and what not excluded) is the Gigabyte 6600GT TD AGP for $249 AUSD.

Next best is a 6600 TD.

VIVO - Video In/Video Out, not needed for games.

TD - TV out, Digital Video Out + VGA out (except on High end cards)

Good luck m8 .


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irishdevil
Skirmisher
posted 12-24-05 08:38 PM EDT (US)     50 / 97       
What is the cheapest graphics card that will run on the minimum settings? I have played the demo, and I'm 32 Mb below the graphics minimum. It plays, but the graphics are pretty terrible, and the lag is bad too. I can only spend about 50 bucks on a graphics card. I just want to play. Any suggestions?
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