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Spitfire
HG Alumnus
(id: spitfire_23)
posted 10-21-05 04:30 PM EDT (US)         

We are please to announce the first HG-run community wiki. To build a comprehensive encyclopedia of Scenario Design has been an unrealized dream for past games. Starting today, we are going to attempt it for AoE3. With your help, we intend build a complete reference for the art of Scenario Design. Here is the link:

http://wiki.heavengames.com/age/

Here are just a few of the features:

  • YOU can add new articles, or edit current ones!
  • A Question Center, where new designers can learn from experienced ones
  • A Frequently Asked Questions section with a page for each common question.
  • Complete guides to all the basics of scenario design
  • A page on every condition and on every effect
  • The “Design Dictionary”, containing common design-related words
  • Much, much more.

What is a wiki? What’s so great about it?
A wiki is a lot like this forum. People can post on it, format their posts with colors and links, and they can start discussions with each other. A wiki, however, has one critical advantage: Anyone can edit a page on a wiki. Think of the Scenario Design Library for AoK. Only one or two people can edit it to keep its contents up to date! Talk about a lost cause. Then think of a thread giving helpful information to designers. The thread’s poster can edit it, and other people can contribute to it in an unorganized fashion. Now think of a wiki. Anyone in the world can edit it. They don’t even need to have an account, and they can keep information together in a clear and organized fashion, that is easily searched, and easily referenced to other pages.

Skeptical? Many people are. Don’t take my word for it though: there’s a great example of a wiki in action at www.wikipedia.org. Wikipedia is the world’s largest encyclopedia, and it is growing at a phenomenal rate every day.

What sort of information will be on the wiki?
The wiki will be dedicated to information about Age of Empires 3 Scenario Design. This ranges from a section for asking questions, to a section defining design-related words, to a section explaining each condition and effect in the Age of Empires 3 Editor. In short, the wiki will have everything you ever wanted to know about AoE3 design in one place. Have you ever been designing for another game, and couldn’t remember some minor fact? That will never happen to you again once the wiki project is up and running.

Won’t the wiki overlap with the forums?
We’re going to do everything possible to prevent this. Things related to the scenario design community can still be discussed on the forums, as can things relating to AoE3 design. Think of the forums as the place where you work out the “rough drafts” of what will later become articles.

How can I help?
Let’s face it: the wiki project isn’t going to succeed without a concentrated effort from the community. Don’t just assume that the next guy will help out, because he’s saying that about you! In the end, we feel that the reward will be worth it: a better scenario design experience for everyone.

Have you ever wanted to work for HG? This is your big chance!

Right now, HG is looking for committed individuals, who are willing to dedicate their time to making the community better for everyone. These “Administrators”, while not HG staff, will be in charge of one or more of the sections on the wiki (view sections here). So if you think you’ve got what it takes, apply now! Either post a reply in this thread or email spitfire.23@gmail.com and kumarshah@heavengames.com with your application. You should include with your application:

  • your email
  • IM contact info (if possible)
  • Whether or not you’ve edited a wiki before

Additionally, include a brief description of why you feel you’re suited to work on the wiki, possibly providing examples of things you’ve done in the past to help the design community. If your application is approved my myself and the AoE3H seraph (Aro), we'll let you know. If you have an account on the wiki, we'll give you sysop status. Read about that here.

I have a suggestion for the wiki
By all means, post your suggestions in this thread. This is a brand new approach for everyone, so we're willing to adapt. We're especially interested in how easy you found it to learn how to edit - making this as easy as possible is our goal. Editing a wiki is at about the same level of difficulty as formatting a post you make on the forums, but the conventions may be difficult to adapt to. When the wiki really gets up and running, we'll be relying on people being able to learn the software easily.

Conclusion
Today, the first step into a larger world has been taken. A long journey lies ahead of us, and nobody can see where the road leads. Ultimately, the success or failure of this project depends on you - the scenario designer.


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[This message has been edited by Spitfire (edited 11-04-2005 @ 10:11 AM).]

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Elpea
Hal
(id: lp_usa)
posted 10-21-05 04:34 PM EDT (US)     1 / 65       
I r winner.

Less cryptic post: Awesome, this will kick ass.


[This message has been edited by Elpea (edited 10-21-2005 @ 04:36 PM).]

AoMPlayer000
Banned
posted 10-21-05 04:37 PM EDT (US)     2 / 65       
Great, great ... I'm excited how it'll develop!

Oh, and as you might have noticed, the AoM Wiki was a failure. Things have turned out rather... unexpected (among the HG staff etc.).

Gaurdian_112
Banned
posted 10-21-05 04:42 PM EDT (US)     3 / 65       
I designed the logo. My photoshop skills are increasing!

Count me in, I'll help out as much as I can with design tutorials.

Jax
HG Monument
(id: Jax Omen)
posted 10-21-05 04:47 PM EDT (US)     4 / 65       
I can edit Wiki's - its really not that hard if you follow the tutorials. the only problem is copyrights for images, but on a scenario design Wiki I guess you'd make them yourself. I don't really have time to help out in a big way, and don't know much about the 'Ensemble' editors anyway. At least, not enough to contribute largely

Anyway - just want to say it sounds like a great idea. I like designing scenarios, and this seems like a great resource to help new people


house won this
Elpea
Hal
(id: lp_usa)
posted 10-21-05 04:52 PM EDT (US)     5 / 65       

Quote:

Oh, and as you might have noticed, the AoM Wiki was a failure. Things have turned out rather... unexpected (among the HG staff etc.).


What do you mean? AoM Wiki was awesome. Go there now, you'll see plenty of articles and info.

AoM was a dying game and didn't really help on that cause, but for a dying game we did pretty good. I still get a steady rate of visitors from the design library to the Wiki.


Alex
(VIP) Reverie World Studios
(id: pEpsIdUDe_123)
posted 10-21-05 05:20 PM EDT (US)     6 / 65       
Awesome

RiderOfEternity
Skirmisher
posted 10-21-05 06:14 PM EDT (US)     7 / 65       
Very nice, I look forward to embracing other people's tricks and tutorials, and so on

Age of Mythology Wiki was very good, so I expect this to be just as good.


Leader of Liquid Fire. Animator Seb C.

One does not simply leave HG
Gaurdian_112
Banned
posted 10-21-05 08:35 PM EDT (US)     8 / 65       
Yeah Yeah this is bragging...

But I made the logo. BTW if anyone else wants logos done, I'm free to make em (need stuff to practice with).

filmdirector2
Skirmisher
posted 10-21-05 10:47 PM EDT (US)     9 / 65       
We currently don't have an administrator for modding, AI, or RMS. Contact Spitfire if you're interested.
Slickman_G
Skirmisher
posted 10-22-05 11:22 AM EDT (US)     10 / 65       
Great Idea!

(¯`·.`.¸¸.°°.¸¸.`.·´¯)
(°¸.·`«Slick G»`·.¸°)
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SilencedDisciple
Skirmisher
posted 10-22-05 11:51 AM EDT (US)     11 / 65       
This will be helpful in future uses.

-SilDis


"We are as happy as our minds make up to be" - Abraham Lincoln
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ATTEcLiPsE1
Skirmisher
posted 10-22-05 12:16 PM EDT (US)     12 / 65       
Yay!

Hopefully this will go better than the AoM Wiki...


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Elpea
Hal
(id: lp_usa)
posted 10-22-05 12:44 PM EDT (US)     13 / 65       
There should be a list of designers, projects being made.. etc.

EaZy
Skirmisher
(id: EazY_Ben)
posted 10-22-05 01:30 PM EDT (US)     14 / 65       
Nodgene
Skirmisher
posted 10-22-05 02:27 PM EDT (US)     15 / 65       
Nothing like a new game to get everybody excited, industrious and pleased with themselves, is there?

I'm sure this will compliment everything very well.


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Skirmisher
(id: Emperor_Julian)
posted 10-22-05 10:26 PM EDT (US)     16 / 65       
Has anyone noticed that there's GOATSE on this, once you click on the link, then click on AgeofWiki at the top, some goatse comes up.

Sigh....


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Skirmisher
(id: Desere)
posted 10-22-05 10:32 PM EDT (US)     17 / 65       
There is?
I was on there earlier, and it didn't have any goatse on it.
But il'l take youre word on it.

No will to wake for this morn.
To see another black rose born,Deathbed is slowly covered with snow.
Angels, they fell first but I'm still here.
Alone as they are drawing near, In heaven my masterpiece will finally be sung

End of All, Nighwish
papaya
ಠ_ಠ
(id: X_MOSS)
posted 10-22-05 10:46 PM EDT (US)     18 / 65       
ATTENTION, EVERY PAGE ON THE WIKI HAS BEEN REPLACED WITH TUBGIRL, ENTER AT YOUR OWN RISK!!!!!

The IP is: 203.218.30.173

I will try to edit out as many as I can.


oh you can wait for what I can give
you know what I am so you know how I live
try to look proud but you’re not in the slightest
its happening now and it’s always been like this.

[This message has been edited by Papaya (edited 10-22-2005 @ 11:12 PM).]

beekay
Skirmisher
(id: black_knight_101)
posted 10-22-05 10:48 PM EDT (US)     19 / 65       
Tubgirl, actually. Not goatse.

*runs off to vomit*


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Spitfire
HG Alumnus
(id: spitfire_23)
posted 10-22-05 11:21 PM EDT (US)     20 / 65       
Banned.

I am constantly amazed by the work ethic of stupid people. He spent over 40 minutes carefully modifying each page, and it took me less than two minutes to revert.


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[This message has been edited by Spitfire (edited 10-22-2005 @ 11:35 PM).]

papaya
ಠ_ಠ
(id: X_MOSS)
posted 10-22-05 11:23 PM EDT (US)     21 / 65       
Good, then all my work didn't go to waste.
BTW, spitfire, howcome you dont go on MSN?

oh you can wait for what I can give
you know what I am so you know how I live
try to look proud but you’re not in the slightest
its happening now and it’s always been like this.
Work Ethnics
Banned
posted 10-22-05 11:41 PM EDT (US)     22 / 65       
You reverted WHAT, Spitfire?
beekay
Skirmisher
(id: black_knight_101)
posted 10-22-05 11:43 PM EDT (US)     23 / 65       
Well, you have to admire his persistence.

[insert "And stupidity." posts here]


sig
Work Ethnics
Banned
posted 10-22-05 11:50 PM EDT (US)     24 / 65       
And stupidity.
papaya
ಠ_ಠ
(id: X_MOSS)
posted 10-22-05 11:59 PM EDT (US)     25 / 65       
^ Lets set a new record for new IP's in one night, shall we?

oh you can wait for what I can give
you know what I am so you know how I live
try to look proud but you’re not in the slightest
its happening now and it’s always been like this.
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