By Smear
Everyone Thinks the Sioux can’t match up to Civ’s like France or Spain. France can just Fast fortress and bring cuirs and cannon up your ass. Spain will fast fortress too and just spam shipments at you until you run out of resources. Correct? What about iro? It seems nobody can beat there Fast fortress. And let’s not forget about Dutch, Russia, and British who all need to be dealt with at some time or another. Well I am going to teach you how to beat this, along with some more strats to beat other civs. Let’s start with the basics of the Sioux.
~ ~ ~ ~ The Wakina Rifle Costs less, only has 25 less hitpoints, takes less time to build and less time to gather for and only has 2 less damage then a forest prowler. Not that bad for a civ that’s supposed to use OP cavalry. Ok now lets move on to some strats. Everyone knows that Sioux are famous for there cetan spam *laming* But what if your up against a French or spain player. Or even another Sioux player? Are you going to rely on your micro vs the Sioux? Are you going to hope that the French player doesn’t FF and get cuirs? Or are you going to just sit back and let the spain player spam shipments at you all night long? NO of course not! This is how to beat them. MATCH their FF with one of your own! Here’s how you do it. This strat also works well vs brit, Russia and the occasional germany. Russia just fast fortress and get dog soilders and cav. They cant do anything vs them in age 2. The british player will be to busy booming to realize that axe riders and dog soldiers kick there lbs ass and if they go for musket or pike you have wakina. And germany.. lets just say.. if you cant beat germany.. I pity you. Now what to do vs those pesky ottomans who spam you with OP abuse guns and Janz. Quite simple really. Rush them before they can mass enough units! And while your at it, strangle there economy! Heres how: After an intelligent post by some forumers on HG I decided to test our the evening star card vs Ottomans, Surprisingly it completely murdered ottomans everywhere and most were like “wtf I’ve never seen that before” or “That completely caught me off guard” Enjoy mates So now we have strats vs Otto/ Sioux/ French/ Spain/ Russia. Now what about British? They will just outboom you if you don’t rush right?! Omg what do we do, you say to me. Well what else would you do. Fast fortress vs them. Lol no I’m not joking were going to fast fortress vs a booming civ. They will make the wrong units like LB and you will easily be able to counter them in fortress. Heres how you do it: And Now we have a strat vs All the Civs except for the lamest of them all. Iroquois Confederation.. They will Fast fortress and most likely get forest prowler/musket riders. So what do you do?! You Slap that bitch! SLAP! An Axe to the face! SLAP Wakina bullet to the head! Heres how: Once it arrives collect it and Age with the 4 axe rider chief. During age put some villagers on wood if you can get another tp up. If you are currently at 0 wood then just put the villagers on gold, doesn’t matter that much. During age up send 4 axe rider shipment too By now your opponent is probably attacking you with forest prowlers. Precede to Slap him in the face with your cavalry/wakina combo. If he has some musket riders with him then micro them to death with your wakina. Send 9 wakina for backup If you have not won the game by now because he hasn’t resigned out of frustration because his laming didn’t work, Then you may proceed to completely Slap this lamer in the face. Happy Hunting [This message has been edited by Smear (edited 02-21-2007 @ 02:09 PM).]
This guy is OP. He has a speed of 8.10 and can convert treasure guardians. With him you can scout the map for very good treasures in less then a minute depending on the map. Not to mention you can raid with him and nobody can catch you in age 2 and even age 3. And why stop with raiding? Put him behind some wakina or cetan and they can hit and run like no other. ALWAYS Use your Warchief even if you don’t think he will help. He probably will.
Having no houses is one of the best advantages in this game. You can make units whenever you want. You don’t have to spend as much time chopping wood and you can ship shipments that take up 60 pop room! And not have to worry.
Sioux cavalry is some of the best in the game.
-Dog soldier shipments, though small, can really turn the tide of the game in age 2 or 3.
-Axe riders can cost a lot but hey you’re Sioux you don’t need food right? They are stronger then normal hussar too and are a raiding machine when combined with your warchief.
-And lets not forget Rifle Riders. These guys with proper hit and running techniques can stop any rod spam/jan spam/musket/cav spams. Don’t forget to always hit and run with them.
We all know that Sioux are supposed to be a cavalry civ. But somewhere along the line ES decided to hand them some pretty good infantry. Let’s take a look at them.
-Cetan. These guys can be easily spammed in age 2 and can take out most other LI with proper micro. And when supported by axe and bears they are a force to be reckoned with.
-Clubman. IMO these guys aren’t that great. But if you need some extra siege then the shipment of them isn’t that bad. But only make them if you’re trying to take down some buildings. More on this later when we get to the club rush.
-Wakina. Let me let you in on a little secret I learned from _sephiroth_. These little guys are OP and nobody knows. They’re dirt cheap, 60 food and 30 gold for a unit that almost matches a forest prowler? Are you serious? Lets take a look at there stats:
60 food 30 gold, 85 hit points, 29 seconds to build, 121 villa time, 16 damage with bonus
50 food 65 gold, 110 hit points, 33 seconds to build, 167 villa time, 18 damage with bonus
-2 villa’s to hunt
-3 to crates
-First card 3 villagers
-Try to scout for some good treasure with your warchief. Try to get all the gold treasures you can.
-Start to herd a second huntable toward your tc.
-Age with 15 villagers around 3:20 with the 400 wood chief.
-Now you need to collect 300 gold somehow. Whether through treasures or mining. Here is how I do it depending on how much gold you have at this point
100g = 5 villagers on mine
200g = 4 villagers on mine
-Once you age and have 300 gold send the gold miners to collect the 400 wood and make a warhut, If your enemy is going to rush you within the next couple minutes, IE Sioux mirror, then I would suggest putting the rax behind your tc, Since the Sioux doesn’t have that good of siege you can use your tc to pick off there units, Just make sure you can still Hunt during this time.
-As soon as you age send 700 gold. When it arrives have your gold miners, which are now warhut builders, collect it ASAP.
-When you have enough to age, age with the messenger, Now here’s the thing though. In SOME instances it is ok to age with the 4 axe rider chief, but only when you know you won’t be attacked and that your opponent wont get to fort before you do. You will have to be the judge of that though. You should age around 6 minutes if done right
-Put 5 villagers back on gold, 11 on food.
-Arive in fort around 7 minutes if you aged with the fast chief, As soon as you age, queue one villager, as many wakina as you can and send 3 dog soilders if facing Sioux. If you are facing spain send 5 rifle riders to take care of there heavy infantry spamming and lancer spamming, Also send 5 rifle riders if you know your French enemy Fast fortressed, If he was dumb and thought you were going to colonial fight then send 3 dog soldiers.
-Keep spamming wakina. They are very cheap and you should be able to get 5 coming out each time while spamming villagers.
-When your shipment arrives you can choose to attack or defend or wait for more units
-My advice. If your going vs a French wait til you have your second shipment and send 5 axe or 3 dog soldier, then attack with 15 or so wakina 5 rifle and 5 axe riders, he will only have skirm and if he’s smart the 3 cuir card. Micro him to death sil vous plait.
-If you’re going vs. a Spain then a slightly hard road follows you. You will have to micro your cav to keep out of the rods way while still defending your wakina from lancers or cannon. My advice is to go heavy on the rifle rider shipments and keep them alive! Once those shipments run out send the wakina one or 5 axe riders depending on what’s going on.
-If your going vs Sioux and he was dumb enough to try and rush you with cetan then keep the cav shipments coming, 3 dog soldiers followed by 5 axe riders, even if he sent his cav shipments the dog soldiers themselves will be able to keep him at bay with wakina backup and proper micro.
~Lets remember that the basic principle of this strat is to keep your wakina alive while spamming shipments, If you lose your wakina then your basically done for.
~Another idea would be to put some villagers on a firepit during age to fortress and use the gift dance to get your shipments faster.
~I would also think about adding the 10 renegado allies to your fast fortress deck. if your rush needs some extra umpf or some siege 500 gold for these guys aint so bad. they also count as some excelent anti infantry.
-This strat also works vs Aztec, all you have to do is collect your age up material while building a warhut in a secret place incase he attacks your tc. Once u age send wakina and rifle riders to kill his bb rush. Then its gg.
-Here is one vs Sioux
-Here is one vs Spain
-Here is one vs French
-Basic Sioux colonial.
-Age with 15, 500 food poli.
-As you age put either 3 or 5 villagers on wood depending on how much wood you started with. Make a rax a soon as you can
-As soon as you age send 4 axe’s
-queue as many cetan as you can
-collect 500 food and queue a few villagers
-You should have about 7 villagers on wood and the rest on food
-Next shipment is 2 dog soldiers
-As soon as your 4 axe’s arrive GO RAID take out as many villagers as you can without losing any axe. If you happen upon a few abus coming out of an artillery range and there are no janz in sight then by all meens destroy them. Just DON’T lose any of your axe’s or your warchief.
-When you have 10 cetan go attack his 5-10 janz that he should have made. Pick them off, you are not going for the win just yet, your are hitting and running his Lame Op abusing ass to death! If he starts to go abus and you cant hit and run anymore then act like your hitting and running and draw his janz off his abus. Then rush in with your 4 axe 2 dogs and wc and destroy the abus, then get the hell out of there. Use cetan on janz always!
-Next shipment is 700 gold
-Chop 200 wood and make a stable
-Mass axe and if you have enough food keep making cetan.
-The second battle should take place soon as your ottoman enemy thinks that he can take you on. If he attacks then micro him to death. I cant give any details on hints on how to beat him here, it all depends on YOUR MICRO. Axe on abus always and Cetan on janz always. Never let up.
-At this Point the ottoman is either going for a silk road to keep his eco stable or his shipments are starting to run out. If he has tps try and take them out without losing any units, If he doesn’t have tps then try to raid with your wc and pick off some janz.
-At some point I advise making a firepit and boom some villagers, The basic principle of this strat is to always keep him on the defensive and if he does go offensive you are able to stop him and not die. Also the point is to wear the ottoman out til his eco is in shambles and you can just walk into his base and he has little or no army.
-KEEP RAIDING, if there is a lul in the battle and you have some axes and your wc then go raid! Just don’t lose any horses. Even taking out 1 of your opponents villagers will set him back a bit. After his shipments run out of course
-There isn’t much I can tell you about finishing him off, Each game vs an ottoman is different and I mostly play it by ear, If your opponent does get to fortress u will need some rifle riders to fight off spahi.
-Here is one on texas, don’t worry the map didn’t play a part in the outcome, or at least. IMO it didn’t haha.
So how do you use this card to the Sioux’s advantage? Heres how..
-Regular Sioux age
-Age with 500 food poli
-Move villagers to wood
-Once you have 200 wood all villagers back on food
-Put about 4 villagers on gold
-Collect 500 food
-Queue villager
-Make a stable
-Send 4 Axe
-Once stable is complete Queue 5 axe
-When you get your 9 axe and your warchief go raid the ottoman, Just piss him off for awhile while you continue to mass axe riders, If hes going for the IOR then kill his explorer ASAP
-Send 2 dog soldiers
-By now the ottoman should think your going all axe, So he will mass janz like a mofo, This is where the evening star comes in.
-Once you get around 17 axe riders send your evening star card, If your opponent attacks with his janz then run your cav away and keep them alive
-Once the evening star card is about to arrive run your cav at him, Whether he is attacking your base or just sitting in his own. If you have a clear shot at his villagers then go kill like 2-3 of them before you switch to rifle riders. He will run his janz in thinking your on a raid and then BAM rifle rider shot to the face bitch! I have literally taken out 30 jan armies with this. And that’s 3k food down the drain right there.
-At this point keep massing axe and keep your rifle riders alive. Once you take out his army then keep raiding his base and taking out villagers. He will either quit out of Anger or keep on fighting hoping he can mass enough units to fight you. He might switch to abus to counter rifle riders and if he does then its GG, If he doesn’t.. well.. Its GG still cuz rifle riders still pwn him.
-Send your club cards to take out some houses, You wont belive how pissed he will become when he has no army, his villas cant gather AND he is popped.
-I have found that this strat beats anything the ottoman can do if its done correctly. I love it
-I would recommend to ALWAYS use this strat vs an ottoman.. although if u cant for some reason or just wish to win without being OP then use my first variation.
This one I was testing out the strat vs a friend, Watch the ending to find out a secret word!
This one is vs.. SEPHIROTH!! THE LAMER OF ALL OTTOMAN LAMERS. THE MIGHTIEST OF ALL .. MIGHTY.. PEOPLE…
-Regular Sioux discovery
-15 villa age
-Age with the messenger, THAT’S RIGHT the messenger!
-3 villagers to gold or 4 depending on how much gold you started with
-Try to get another herd near you
-Send 700 gold as soon as you age
-Collect with 4 villa’s that were on gold, rest are still on hunts
-Age with 800 wood ASAP
-4 villa on gold, rest on food
-Send 5 axe shipment
-Collect 800 wood
-Make 2 tps
-Send axe’s to go raid if you can without your warchief because he is making tps. If you cannot do it safely then do not bother.
-Make a warhut
-Spam wakina
-Keep up villager production
-Make a fire pit
-These steps should all take place relatively quickly upon entering fortress age
-Next shipment is 3 dog soldiers
-As soon as you get around 10 wakina start to pick off his villagers or soldiers that he has made. Considering they are british and dutch they will most likely have longbow or skirm. Maybe even musket if they think you will go all cav. Either way we are in the advantage here. Lure them out a bit from there base then run in with cavalry and wakina and destroy there army. If they happened to make pikes then run your cav around a bit while picking off the pike with wakina. If they have no pikes then this should be pretty easy.
-Next shipments are 4 axe, 9 wakina, clubman shipments
-Make sure you take full advantage of the siege dance at the firepit. Once you take out there armies you should switch to siege dance and start to rip down there tc/outposts that they have made.
-Always go for villagers, If your attack does happen to fail any villagers that you do kill will equalize the economic advantage that these boom civs have on you.
-This strat can be used vs many other civs too. But it depends on the situation
-Here is one vs british
Now we need a strat vs Port/Dutch. This Pesky UP civ can cause a lot of problems for Sioux believe it or not. If they get there 3 tc’s up and are able to get to fortress then your dead, cassadores and goons counter everything you can throw at them, belive me if they get to fortress it’s a NIGHTMARE for a Sioux player. And then dutch, what are you going to let them ff and get cannon/halbs? Hell no. So the only way to stop this is an all or nothing club rush. Heres how:
-Regular Sioux age
-Age with 15, 400 wood poli
-Here is where the discovery age changes a bit. Try to find some good treasure guardians that can siege and convert them before the port ages. Get 1 or 2 depending. Once the Port ages rush those guardians in and Attack his tc cart. He will most likely get the tc foundation going unless he is a complete noob. Siege the foundation
-All villas stay on food
-3 forward near ports base
-As soon as you age send the 6 clubman card
-Collect 400 wood
-Make warhut with forward villa’s
-5 villagers to wood
-When you get your first clubs attack the town center that your warchief has been attacking
-Spam clubman from wh
-Next shipment is 6 cetan
-Keep up the attack on the town center until it is finished. If he sends for minute men then retreat for a couple seconds (wait for another batch of units for example) then continue your attack
-4 axe is next shipment
-If your opponent chose to not FF and is spamming a certain type of unit then stop making clubs and make cetan, most likely though you should take out his 2nd tc before you switch to cetan.
-Playing vs a Port is another strat where your going to have to play it by ear. It depends a lot on what your opponent does. If he fights it out in colonial then go heavy on cetan and axe shipments. If he chooses to FF then go heavy on clubman with axe shipments.
-Here is one vs Port
Age with 400 wood
Build a trading post if you have the wood, if you don’t wait til you gather the 400 wood and build one.
Switch some villagers to gold so you have 300 when u age.
Collect wood
Make tp if you havnt
Build a blockhouse
Send 700 gold
Spam wakina
Send 5 axe
Send 3 dog soldiers
Once you completely outmicro and OUTLAME his army precede to completely destroy any forward base that he might have made.
If you can raid safely now is the time to do it while you are building up your siege force.
Send 1k food
Get dog soldier big button to add that extra umpf to your siege force.
~If the iro decides to fast rush then put the warhut behind your base where he cant see it and plop out 5 cetan, that is more then enough to take out his rush. if you have to send the 2 dog soldier and micro his units to death, he will probly resign after that since his rush FAILED. But if he doesnt, then go fortress and get wakina
-If you look at the iro’s deck early and see hes going to turtle with great house then do the classical club rush. Otherwise use this.
So that is my guide so far. If you have any suggestions please do tell and I will be uploading some recordings for them in a second.
Full Guides:
~Sioux Survival Guide: The Last Stand
~The Tashunke Shank: A New Hope
Mini Guides:
~Sioux vs French: Napoleons Downfall