ingin_burner
Skirmisher
posted 05-26-08 02:45 AM
EDT (US)
29 / 81
Gren's are under-used for a reason. They require a building that costs 300 wood, that most civs will not need until the third age. Pikemen are a way better alternative. You can build 2 pike for less cost than 1 gren. These 2 pike have greater seige than 1 gren. The pike can also provide a good cover from cav. Gren's, doing less seige cost effectively to pike, also require some sort of cav cover. Pike's do more seige damage, which is the gren's bread and butter. And more benefits to pikes against military rather than buildings, the pikes are way better.
CrazyLunatic
Veteran Musketeer
posted 05-26-08 09:47 PM
EDT (US)
32 / 81
as otto I generally make a foundry for abus guns also so what's the harm pumping out 5 or so grenadiers... they can break buildings down so well they're worth it... especially useful if the enemy has walls...
adamh43524
Skirmisher
posted 05-27-08 02:57 PM
EDT (US)
41 / 81
Since reading this thred i have actualy started using the grenadiers, i play brits an if you mix some grens in with mush they totaly pawn a HI army! the only thing is im not realy sure how to use thm correctly, would it be better makeing a archer/musk army and them throw about 10 grens in for icing on the cake or go with a gren musk army like i have been trying.
Also i have been losing a hell of alot more using this techinic than my usual musk archer army. Should i put this down to lack of experience making them or what???
cheers, i was gunna open a new thread but i thought this would slot in quite well here.
Flair
Skirmisher
posted 05-27-08 05:26 PM
EDT (US)
44 / 81
People are calling Grens useless for anything but siege, but they are also a good HI counter. 65 ranged resist is just amazing. However, you need to have some sort of a meatshield, usually some sort of musketeer unit, in order to prevent the HI from sneaking up and meleeing your expensive grens. They can supplement your RI nicely, while packing in the siege power that xbows and skirms severely lack.
CrazyLunatic
Veteran Musketeer
posted 05-27-08 06:43 PM
EDT (US)
45 / 81
i agree with everything on grens said... don't go all grenadier, but put about 5 or more in your army but with other troops also preferably HI such as musks/jans