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The Fall of Russia 2 - Civil War

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Game Version: AoE3+TWC+TAD
# of Players: 4
This is the sequel to The Fall of Russia (completed December '07). I believe this one is FAR better to the first (it also took about 60 hours of work), and I have cut out the opening movie due to popular demand. (people are too damn impatient) Anyway, this one is bigger and better than the last and has many new features.


Magnus has betrayed Ulbrecht and the Russians while Oskar and Cesare are away from Moscow! You take command of Ulbrecht and his three generals and work your way to Magnus, fighting him as the final boss. It's an all-new map with better balance, and it's harder and longer than the first.

New features:

Soldiers that move with you and level up alongside you. You can rescue more as you go along.

Minibosses in addition to bosses.

More, new terrain features.

More balanced bosses.

An interesting note:
I also did this with TfoR 1, but forgot to mention it. The names of the bosses and minibosses (the main characters too) are real names I looked up from the countries the units come from. The minibosses have real Native American names and the bosses have real Russian names.

I didn't spread TFoR 2 around too much due to people making edits and screwing up TFoR 1, but here it is nonetheless.
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Map Design3.0
Playability: 3
No lagg this time, however, most ppl did not know who to keep alive and wat to do. I also recomend adding a warning when their hero is injured, and perhaps a trigger attack and a flash.

Balance: 4
The units wer more balanced this time however some players had better units this time but this time it was really minor

Creativity: 3
and rpg, of hit and run, however i liekd that u had more than 1 soldier and that u ahd to hit an run alot less :)

Map Design: 3
Not enough eyecandy, i believe that u should add some props. And should have put in a cinematic as i siad.

Story/Instructions: 3
The instructions and story this time was in small letters off to the right, and most ppl did not know who to keep alive therefore a person died at the beginning. And no cinematic opening this time :(

Additional Comments:
I actually liked #1 better for most parts, the main thing that i liekd better was the increases unit count
KevTheGreat Btw is there a #3? i saw someone hosting it earlier

nvm u just said that u made it today i saw it on the gereral thread lol

[Edited on 07/01/08 @ 05:42 PM]

Mobile Did people seriously not know what to do? and who to keep alive? lol.

It was pretty self explanatory, and people should try playing the 1st one b4 this one to understand the game better.

Many people just ran right into bosses however, so the only thing i would change is to add something, maybe a bright light or flash on the bosses when we get close to them.

Still, a good game. Of course, the original was better. :P
Mobile IN MY OPINION, you should make the host and p4 have the best units because it is easier to get certain people in those 2 spots b4 the game begins, so the 2 experts dont get stuck using the less powerful units in the game.
Map Design4.0
Playability: 4
A nice smooth RPG with familiar characters, TFOR 2 delivers the same replay value and cooperative experience as its predecessor. I didn't run into any bugs while playing this, and no lag to speak of. The only reason I wouldn't give this a 5 is that of the half dozen or so games I started, only one went to completion, because nearly everyone else dropped out or suicided out on account of boredom. Some people find this map a LOT easier than the first one. More on that in Balance.

Balance: 4
The starting heroes are different; in the original, players start with a Mercenary that by itself, is inherently better than the cannon fodder units of the enemy. In this version, players start with an ordinary colonial infantry or cavalry unit. Except for player 1, who still gets the OP Jaeger. In original TFOR, I remember joining and getting Magnus and thinking with envy about that Jaeger...now I join and get a measly xbow and think even harder with envy about that Jaeger. Some players thought so hard about it, they would leave and try to rejoin in various ways to not end up having to be the player who gets the xbow. Certainly the accessory units help, and are balanced to the starting unit; Uhlan is stronger in this game, so he gets weaker support units; LI is weaker, so he gets stronger support units.
That said, balance must seem to work out somehow, because after the first boss players complained of boredom and either suicided or just plain left. Of those who stayed till the bitter end, they found it got easier as time went on.

Creativity: 4
IIRC the original TFOR was the grand-daddy of RPG scenarios, and got played more than any other scenario one Christmas. This one is a nice twist on the original, with a cast of supporting units that improve over time. That said, the Revolt doesn't break any significant new ground. Bosses are essentially the same as before, minibosses are kind of underdeveloped here, and killing bosses in general is not a huge challenge, nor is it a greatly rewarding experience. In all the boss victories with a reward, that reward is the same. You rescue additional supporting units, of the same type as the ones you started with. This doesn't encourage people to change strategy or open up new areas of development for the player characters. There is essentially no token economy of the sort you find in Fort Wars or Colosseum; no unit choice, no HP/Atk bonus choices, none of that.

Map Design: 4
In general the TFOR maps are generous, open, spacious, and navigable. A few buildings and props give a bit of flavor to the setting, but the scenario mapwork seems to act as little more than traffic flow control, and a scaffold for staged encounters with enemy garrisons and boss parties. The map does not use elevations, unit LOS, terrain types, and Unit In Area effects to any particular advantage. I actually find myself a little nostalgic for the more complicated map of the original TFOR after playing this one.

Story/Instructions: 4
This story is a familiar one that people will recognize from TFOR original. A series of screen messages tell a brief summary of the treason of Magnus and the reason your starting Mercenaries are no longer there. If I had not played TFOR already, I would have had some difficulty knowing which units were supposed to correspond to which original factions. But I think it would not be hard to figure out that any unit renamed to an army officer should be protected at all costs. I agree it would be best if a single trigger could point this out - "save your commanding officer at all costs, don't let him die" - and a flare on unit to make sure people know which one.

Additional Comments:
Overall, a simple, straightforward romp in the snow for the lieutenants of Cesare, Albrecht, etc. without much delving into new concepts or design territory. I look forward to seeing what's in TFOR 3.

[Edited on 07/08/08 @ 12:55 PM]

KevTheGreat wow.... thats ummmmmm alot of writing
acornhead Playability: 3
Fun but one of the most laggiest maps i've ever played... I recommend adding some more features into the map. Overall this part was ok.

Balance: 3
This is where it was surprising. I didn't expect a minor army to begin with, just the hero and the healer. I recomend removing the mini army or adding them later in the game maybe as followers. Some of the mini army units were also stronger than others.

Creativity: 3
Basic rpg map, hit and run, as kev said. No major ups or downs.

Map Design: 4
Nice map design, 60 hours to make OMG :O. However an rpg map should use more triggers that makes use of more features as said in playability.

Story/Instructions: 2
I agree with kev, no story, no intro, no instructions :( There's nothing else to say but please add them and please again :C

Additional Comments:
I like #1 and #3 alot better than this map :(

[Edited on 07/10/08 @ 04:21 PM]

Official Reviewer
Kev that is the sort of writing you should be aiming for.
KevTheGreat which one, the acorn one or the long long, super long one.... lol
MrMario My review for Navarone’s Fall of Russia 2 Civil War

Playability: 5

No lag, no bugs that I could find, was easy to play and was not to hard to just get a good game with some friend’s.

Balance: 4

The balance is great, Didn’t find anything that wasn’t balanced.

Creativity: 4

Great idea, love that you edit the map and made it for the Civil War time, specially when aoe3 has been upgraded to TAD so it helped a lot. Add more units so that are main unit didn’t have to run and kill every time. Liked how you put bosses in and at the end the boss was a lot harder to kill.

Map Design: 4

Great map, if I was you I would change the snow. Great way to go around the hole map so that you have to kill everything.

Story/Instructions: 4

Should of map it like the first TFOR1, but was an okay story to go with it. Intructions were easy to follow and was not hard to get lost.

Additional Comments:
Great Job.

Had fun playing this with my friend’s

[Edited on 07/13/08 @ 08:30 PM]

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