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Topic Subject: FFA Fun Series Autumn/Winter 2007
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posted 06-23-07 06:28 AM EDT (US)   
Hello All,

For those of you who don’t know me, I am LordPatrick, or LP. I recently enough hosted a FFA Fun Series for the Spring/ Summer months, but technically it was only for Spring, as I had exams, and others had holidays. I am now hosting the 2nd of these series, for the Autumn/Winter months, but once again, due to the release of TAD sometime this Autumn, it will be starting mid-August to get the maximum amount of rounds in before TAD is released. So actually, this will be the last, although only the 2nd, TWC FFA Series, and I hope that it will be a memorable one.

The last Series had around 30 contestants, although some joined late, and some left early for one reason or another. But I suppose that is he joy of the FFA League, the fact that there is no pressure to play a round when you have previous engagements, or simply are feeling a bit under the weather.

Round 8

Map: Yukon
Date: 13th October
Time: 7.30pm GMT/ 8:30pm British Time/ 3:30pm HG Time

Patience is a Virtue

Last to Colonial gets 7 Points

One By One

Can only go Fortress when there are 5 people left. Can onyl go Industrial when there are 4 people left. Only last two can go Imperial. Anyone can revolt. If someone Disconnects, don't count them as being KO'ed, unless they were practically dead and liek just pulled the plug instead of resigning.

The contestants so far:

CookieCrisp13 = 208 Points
chinnie = 148 Points
Eicho = 143 Points
Sporting_Lisbon = 134 Points
LordPatrick = 119 Points
Bastiaan = 106 Points
AIGuy = 102 Points
C4tClysm = 100 Points
_Kenji_ = 84 Points
Dux = 79 Points
madame_praline = 68 Points
wigs = 58 Points
IRP_m0f0 = 49 Points
Walker_5 = 47 Points
Elite_Milne = 42 Points
JimXIX = 39 Points
RetroPriest = 38 Points
Bullet_Bill = 36 Points
Karel007 = 35 Points
smashnbash = 31 Points
bacon = 28 Points
Orlando_the_Axe = 24 Points
the_emperor222 = 24 Points
OdinOwesMe = 23 Points
steve09 = 23 Points
Mr_CoolBeans = 22 Points
Anthonythegreat = 21 Points
PCFreak8 = 19 Points
LordGeneral = 16 Points
JarlNick = 13 Points
goatlancer = 11 Points
chickenboy99 = 7 Points
Brian_NI = 4 Points
Hydrovert5 = 4 Points
General_II = 3 Points
Fecas =2 Points
Tommo = 1 Point
the_emperor = 0 Points
LordKivlov = 0 Points
ziGGysiGGy43 = 0 Points
Stonewall J = 0 Points
Destiny_Devil = 0 Points
MusketeerKing = 0 Points
AceOfKings = 0 Points
3snrocks = 0 Points
zuppa44 = 0 Points
OBESECOW = 0 Points
hazordousPickle = 0 Points
IAmMegaNoob = 0 Points
Fail_Safe = 0 Points
mentork = 0 Points
sandstorm = 0 Points
French_assailant = 0 Points
Farragut = 0 Points
CrazWildSin = 0 Points

The League runs on a point system, with players trying to earn maximum points each round, and the person with the most points at the end of the League wins. The point system was made to try and make games more fun, encouraging rushing and revolting, and not benefiting defensive players nearly as much.

As an added spice to the rounds, each round shall have 1 or 2 themes, as such, which either reward players for certain tasks completed, or force all players to drastically change their game plan. Some of themes from the previous League include:

“Patience is a Virtue” - Last to Colonial Gets Points
“One By One” - Only allowed progress to the next age once a player has been ko’ed, not inc. Discovery
“10 Card Decks” - 10 Cards per Deck.

I will include the successful themes from the last Series and hopefully many more. Feel free to tell me your ideas on ESO. During the League, I will be on ESO regularly, but sometimes leave it logged in, while I am AFK. Simply whisper your question/idea, and I will read it when I come back on the computer.

The formalities covered, I will now proceed to the rules.


Anyone can enter. In a FFA, everyone starts the game with an equal chance of winning. Rank means little when it’s everyone man for himself. And as long as you have fun, that’s all that matters. Everyone’s a winner at the end of the day! To sign up, simply leave your ESO name here.

Times And Dates

Each Round, the chatroom will be set up on ESO at 7.30pm GMT, or 3.30pm EDT (HG Time). The chat will be open for 1 Hour. Try to turn up early so you can be guarenteed a game, as it is often 1 or 2 players don't get a game because they are late and there isn't enough people.

The 1st Round will be on the 11th of August, 2007. The lat round will be determined by the Release of TAD. Rounds will continue to happen until TAD is released.


On the time of the round, I will tell certain people to host a game, and who to invite. You do not host or choose which game you want to be in. Once a game is full, you can go ahead with the game. The last game will always wait until 4.30pm to start, as I have to play in the last game, and I have to wait until 4.30pm to start.


- All games must be recorded
- Any cheating of any kind will result in an immediate ban from the League, and all further Leagues.
- The map will be set beforehand.
- All HC Levels
- No Warships
- The Point system stops after 1 Hour 45 Mins. When I am watching the recording, I will pause it on that time, and adjudicate all further points.
- No unsportsmanlike behaviour. If you don’t have anything positive to say, don’t say anything.
- Everyone must have fun :P.

Point System

Winning = 7 Points

Runner-up = 5 Points

Third Place = 3 Points

Unique Civ = 1 Point

Knocking Someone Out (I decide, may be split between two) = 4 Points

Being 2X Teamed (I decide if enough damage was done) = 4 Points

Knocking a TC sub-10Mins = 8 Points

Knocking a TC sub-15 Mins = 4 Points

Revolting = 2 Points

KO’ing,, or Joint KO’ing Someone After Revolting = 6 Points

First to 1000 Points = 2 Points

First to Industrial = 1 Point

First to Trigger a Trade Monopoly = 2 Points

Winning Using a TM = 20 Points*

Stopping a TM (May be Split) = 2 Points*

Wall Spamming = - 6 Points**

* - To get the points for winning with a TM, there must be at least 2 Others Present in the game. Every time a certain person triggers a TM, the value for that person winning with it drops by 1 Point. So if I win with TM after triggering it twice before triggering it and winning, I only get 18 Points. If you trigger it first, and then trigger it a second time and win, you get 21 Points ( 20+2-1).

** - There is nothing wrong with an outer wall, and then a wall protecting your eco inside it, but you will lose the 2 Points if you build layers upon layers of walls. Again, I decide what counts as wall spamming.

As you can see, there is heavy points for rushing, even more than that for winning. This is to stop cagy games where everyone booms to try and win the game. It encourages open fighting from the start. And please, don’t leave your TC open top a 15 Pike rush sub-10Mins. 5 Xbows would stop the other guy walking away with an easy 8 Points.

So, I guess that’s it then. I don’t think I’ve forgotten anything …

Leave your ESO, and I’ll sign you up. Sign-ups will end, in around 4 weeks time. I am going to Alton Towers, and then straight to Irish College after that, 3 days from now, so if you have any questions, ask them quickly. I already asked Destiny_Devil to answer any questions he knows the answers to while I’m gone. Sign-ups will close in 4 weeks time.

Also, there is places reserved to those who participated in the last Series. I honestly don’t know how much people will want to participate, but the more the merrier.

Have Fun,


Congratulations Serge - Winner of the FFA Spring Series 2008

[This message has been edited by LordPatrick18 (edited 10-24-2007 @ 06:20 AM).]

posted 09-15-07 02:51 PM EDT (US)     476 / 730  
Sorry, my family want to 'go out'...:S

So i might be here at 8 GMT, please wait for me if you can
posted 09-15-07 05:16 PM EDT (US)     477 / 730  
Finished game. Went 1:45 without anyone dying.
I got all the lowest score points but one.

[] - Never gonna get updated in your life
posted 09-15-07 05:25 PM EDT (US)     478 / 730
link to recorded game fun wish i had cannons
still got over 2200 kills if i remember correctly

[This message has been edited by IRP_m0f0 (edited 09-15-2007 @ 05:27 PM).]

posted 09-15-07 06:27 PM EDT (US)     479 / 730  
game 1 just ended, it was a fun game. i piked rushed ( me dutch) Mr coolbeans and i got gren rushed bey kenji. i rebuild on the north, i builded some walls, and got under siege by eicho and bastiaan almost 3/4 hour, but my colonial skirm + hussar army succesfully defended my brave colony. but eicho resigned cause he had to go. bacon resigned to cause he was defeated. with there industrial armies i got overunned by bastiaan and Mr coolbeans and kenji. well, Then i revolded, triggered TM while defaeting bastaans armys.... the game took 2 hours and then every body resigned.

Favourite civ: British
or maybe not
posted 09-15-07 06:56 PM EDT (US)     480 / 730  
The emperor is doing a very good job making it seem as if he played best and all, but he didnt really stand a chanche vs me :P... sure his wall and skirms and huss held off my xbow pike, but my score was several hundreds of points higher. You could argue i knocked kenji out because he had spies hidden everywhere, but i dont know how you look at that. It is undoubtable that i would have won in the end though. Also fun was Kenji gren rushing me and taking a tc while i struck back and took his

Won - 7

tc sub 10 - 8

first to IV - 1

unique civ - 1

and well, maybe ko ing kenji, but i dont know for sure, i would obviously have knocked him out if he didnt hide his spies, but well, its not really important, 17 points is good anyway. Loads of colonial fighting was a lot of fun, i had countless battles of 60 xbows and 30 pikes vs 70 skirms 20 huss, or something like that. Walling only made it kind of impossible to beat purple because i didnt have any good siege unit which didnt die soo easy to his main unit.

I feel kind of proud that i managed to hold him off quite easily without walls :P
posted 09-15-07 07:18 PM EDT (US)     481 / 730  
@ emperor: It was actually game 2.

Anyhow, I already uploaded the game.

Had a hard time deciding to go with the French or the Brits (either Gren-rushing and having an anti-wall unit or going French for the sake of the Early-Skirms card and later OP'd Gendarmes.) I went for the prior.

Thus, Gren rushed Bastiaans TC for 8 points, and soon afterwards the_emperor222s for additional 4 points. (that was a close call however ).

Started running, and spent the mainpart of what was left of the game doing so. Decided to try to take out the_emperor222 as soons as I reached Industrial, and revolted after the first attack. My plans were however ruined by Bastiaan who wanted revenge for the Gren-rush, and so I lost my remaining army+res to him. Spent the rest of the game hiding ~6 colonial Militia + numerous spies. Got at least 2 of the "Lowest Score" points, perhaps 3. I was also doubled my Bast and emperor at around 20mins at my third TC.

8p (TC sub-10) + 4p (TC sub-15) + 4p (Double Team'd) + 2p (Revolution) + 2-3p (Lowest Score) = 20-21p + Treasures.

EDIT: I also got the treasure points! I forgot about it since that one isnt mentioned in the Points list. :P

Q: How do I get veteran skirms as the dutch?
- you have to buy the upgrade in the the barracks lol it should be under the skimiser logo. -you have to be in age3 to get veteran and age 4 to get guard.
After realizing they get automatically upgraded:
- o right i play brits so i just guessed.....thats slighly embarrasing lol

"Ah, the wonderful smell of failure!" - George_III on a full-capslocked topic.

[This message has been edited by KenjiCXT (edited 09-16-2007 @ 06:03 AM).]

posted 09-15-07 09:53 PM EDT (US)     482 / 730  
Eicho: (French)
  • Unike Civ
  • TC sub 15
  • Half Knocked bacon
  • Double teamed at start (MrCoolbeans + bacon)
  • First to 1000

    At ~1:10 i had to go.. you can judge if i had a winnign chance or not.

    [This message has been edited by Eicho (edited 09-15-2007 @ 09:55 PM).]

  • posted 09-16-07 01:57 AM EDT (US)     483 / 730  
    15 mins lowest Score....
    30 mins lowest score....
    45 mins lowest score....
    1 hour mark lowest score... then i just got bored and resigned. My Spot was classic 3 Teepees for LOS and a War Hut in the middle. Purp walled me in without noticing

    ~#~#~ ESO: bacon~#~#~

    Favorite Civs: China, Germans, Aztec

    PR Rank: Master Sergeant.
    posted 09-16-07 04:07 AM EDT (US)     484 / 730  
    thank you for your compliments bastiaan. ok, walling was a bit lame. that you could have hold my of army without walling....each time i defaedet your army and go marching to your base, mr coolbean or eicho were ataking me on the other side so i had to retreat. oh, i forgot the survivor theme.
    8 points knocking out Mr coolbeans tc
    4 points cause i was teamed by bastiaan, kenji, and Mr coolbeans several times
    2 points for revolting
    2 points for triggering TM ( while i was revolting!!!!! )
    3 points third place (i think , maybe second place)
    2 points half knocked bacon( i defaeted his teepees and warhuts)
    1 point unike civ
    maybe 1~2 points for lowest score
    ~24 points, not bad
    gatlings guns are fun

    Favourite civ: British
    or maybe not
    posted 09-16-07 04:25 AM EDT (US)     485 / 730  
    Ok I'm thinking 5:30pm GMT/6:30pm British Time/1:30pm HG Time for the Sunday game or two?

    Congratulations Serge - Winner of the FFA Spring Series 2008
    posted 09-16-07 05:55 AM EDT (US)     486 / 730  
    ^ great

    "You cannnot discover inhabited land , If not i could go and 'discover' England" - Iroquois Chief
    posted 09-16-07 09:39 AM EDT (US)     487 / 730  
    sounds good

    Proud winner of the FFA Winter Round '07!
    [Judgε][Epic Thread]
    My Vods:[One] [Two][Three][Four]
    "with all the bling on a mandsabar you could win the game by paying the enemy to resign." IL
    posted 09-16-07 02:35 PM EDT (US)     488 / 730  
    Mixing the Survivor theme with the One by One theme surely wasn't such a great idea :\ We had 6 players until the 1:45 mark rofl

    FFA Fun Series - Spring/Summer 07 winner
    posted 09-16-07 03:05 PM EDT (US)     489 / 730  
    FFA game 6

    CookieCrisp: Knocking Hydro's TC sub 10 mins (8), Knocking Steve's TC sub 15 mins (4), KO'ing Hydrovert(4), Split Ko'ing Steve09(2), Most Treasures(1), First to Industrial(1), First TM (2), Winning by TM (19), First(7),2x teamed (your decesion on whether i was or not (4)) = 45 pts

    In the event of a TM victory, who gets the first,second,third points? are there any?

    Proud winner of the FFA Winter Round '07!
    [Judgε][Epic Thread]
    My Vods:[One] [Two][Three][Four]
    "with all the bling on a mandsabar you could win the game by paying the enemy to resign." IL

    [This message has been edited by Cookiecrisp13 (edited 09-16-2007 @ 04:10 PM).]

    posted 09-16-07 03:30 PM EDT (US)     490 / 730  
    TM win is 20 points because it encompasses Victory points and points you'd get for KO'ing the other people in the game. You don't get them on top of the win.

    Proud Citizen of Sovietcanuckistan
    posted 09-16-07 03:37 PM EDT (US)     491 / 730  
    IIRC, I was first to 1000. Woot!


    Runner UP: 5 pts
    1st to 1000 pts: 2 pts
    Stopping TM: 1 or 2 i dont know, but I did it twice I think.

    Total: 8 or 9 points. Lame game for me

    Lolocausts are fun.
    posted 09-16-07 03:51 PM EDT (US)     492 / 730  
    Gratz Cookie, so many points :O Btw what civ are you playing?

    FFA Fun Series - Spring/Summer 07 winner
    posted 09-16-07 04:09 PM EDT (US)     493 / 730  

    and smash, i rewatched the replay and there were 2 TMs: the one i first had, and the one i won on

    Proud winner of the FFA Winter Round '07!
    [Judgε][Epic Thread]
    My Vods:[One] [Two][Three][Four]
    "with all the bling on a mandsabar you could win the game by paying the enemy to resign." IL

    [This message has been edited by Cookiecrisp13 (edited 09-16-2007 @ 04:11 PM).]

    posted 09-16-07 06:24 PM EDT (US)     494 / 730  
    Yea, i mean stopped. So did i get 4 points, 3 points or 2 for stopping tm?

    If not, LP doesn't get this tasty chocolate sunday.

    Lolocausts are fun.
    posted 09-16-07 07:16 PM EDT (US)     495 / 730  
    you get 2 for stopping one, unless it was split by LP then its 1 each

    Proud winner of the FFA Winter Round '07!
    [Judgε][Epic Thread]
    My Vods:[One] [Two][Three][Four]
    "with all the bling on a mandsabar you could win the game by paying the enemy to resign." IL
    posted 09-16-07 07:40 PM EDT (US)     496 / 730  
    No soup for you!

    Lolocausts are fun.
    posted 09-17-07 04:45 PM EDT (US)     497 / 730  
    My ESO name is Catabre

    "Apparently, arguing for the right to do something no-one wants to do is the lifeblood of HG." - TaylorFlame

    "Whatever happened, BFME2H did it better. No Exceptions." - EnemyofJupitor
    posted 09-17-07 05:05 PM EDT (US)     498 / 730  
    Blarg. Misread something ignore this post till I think of something clever to replace this with.

    P.S Go Cookie!

    Proud Citizen of Sovietcanuckistan

    [This message has been edited by LordKivlov (edited 09-17-2007 @ 05:07 PM).]

    posted 09-17-07 05:34 PM EDT (US)     499 / 730  
    Watched thje first game from Saturday. Nobody got eliminated, so Colonial Wars!!! Also since nobody was KO'ed it was really hard to adjudicate, but I did my best. I didn't work on score, but on military prowess you could call it, and position and former alliances etc ... So AIGuy, and IRP were basically dead, Chinnie wasn't doing too good, and the last three were very much tied. Here's how I judged it ...

    First - C4
    Second - Sporting
    Third - Orlando
    Fourth - Chinnie
    Fifth - IRP
    Sixth - AIGuy

    The bottom three wre pretty much already KO'ed so they didn't take much adjudicating. From then it was hard. OK I know Orlando had highest score, and Sporting came next, but I saw it differently. I had pleanty of evidence to show that C4 was perfectly able to spam armies to max potential, as he had been doing it for last 30mins, and now that he was allowed go fortress and beyond, I saw that the russian late game is superior to Aztec. As for why I thought Orlando wouldn't last, is simply because he was in the middle of the two, and also coz he hadnt been doing much militarily. Not to mention that I thought the other two would want to take out the strongest so theyd stand a better chance of winning.

    C4t4clysm - Civ, TC-Sub 15 Mins, Split KO'ing IRP, Adjudicated Split KO of Chinnie, Adjudicated Split KO'ing Orlando, Adjudicated KO of Sporting, Adjudicated Win = 22 Points

    AIGuy - Civ, 6 Lowest Scores = 7 Points

    IRP_m0f0 - Civ, Treasures = 2 Points

    Orlando_the_Axe - Civ, First to 1000, Adjudicated Split KO'ing Chinnie, Adjudicated 2X Teamed, Third = 12 Points

    Chinnie - Civ, TC Sub-15 Mins, KO'ing AIGuy, Splt KO'ing IRP = 11 Points

    Sporting_Lisbon - Civ, Lowest Score Once, Adjudicated Split KO'ing Orlando, Adjudicated Split KO'ing Chinnie, Adjudicated Second = 11 Points

    Tell me if you think I missed anything ...

    Congratulations Serge - Winner of the FFA Spring Series 2008
    posted 09-17-07 06:59 PM EDT (US)     500 / 730  
    i guess i should have tried to save my eco eventhough it was so close to 1:45
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